Posted on 11/04/2010 5:48:31 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
Washington (CNN) His party got its clock cleaned in Tuesday's midterm elections, but according to a new national poll President Obama remains competitive in hypothetical 2012 presidential election matchups, especially against Sarah Palin.
A CNN/Opinion Research Corp. survey released Thursday also indicates that at the unofficial start of the race for the Republican presidential nomination, the field of possible contenders appears wide open with no front-runner.
According to the poll, 21 percent of Republicans say they would most likely support former Arkansas Gov. and 2008 GOP White House candidate Mike Huckabee for their party's 2012 presidential nomination, with 20 percent saying they'd back former Massachusetts Gov. and 2008 Republican presidential hopeful Mitt Romney, 14 percent supporting Palin, the former Alaska governor and 2008 GOP vice presidential nominee, and 12 percent backing former House Speaker Newt Gingrich of Georgia.
The remaining candidates whose names were asked in the question were all in single digits, led by Rep. Ron Paul of Texas, who also ran for the GOP presidential nomination the last time around, followed by Mississippi Gov. Haley Barbour, Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty, and Rep. Mike Pence of Indiana at 3 percent, and former Sen. Rick Santorum of Pennsylvania at 2 percent.
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In a possible general election showdown, Obama leads Palin 52-44 percent among all registered voters.
"Looking ahead to 2012, it may be too early to count Barack Obama out, particularly if Sarah Palin is his opponent," says CNN Polling Director Keating Holland.
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In a hypothetical 2012 matchup, Huckabee leads Obama 52 44 percent, while Romney has a 50-45 point advantage, which is within the poll's sampling error. Obama hold a 49-47 percent margin over Gingrich.
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I have always maintained that Sarah would make some real inroads among women if she was the very first woman to win a major party nomination in her own right. However, more and more I'm coming to see that is not the case.
A third of the women in America are sluts who will NEVER vote for anyone who wants to put even the mildest restraints on baby-killing. A third of the women in America are lazy welfare chiselers who are married to the government and will NEVER vote for anyone who wants to derail the gravy train. A third of the women in America are ugly wallflowers who never outgrew high school and will NEVER vote for any confident, attractive woman with a handsome and manly husband. Obviously there is some overlap amng these categories, but put together they are a clear majority of women who will turn out in droves to vote against her. Ann Coulter may have been right about the folly of womens' suffrage!
My polling shows that Mondale/Shabazz would be a winning team for the democrats. Much better than obuma/plugs.
Only 32% of registered voters support obuma for 2012, while 107% of blacks support Mondale/Shabazz.
When college students were asked to name their dream-team presidential ticket, 27% favored Shiela “Bug-Eyes” Jackson Lee/Alan Grayson. Another 18% liked John Conyers/David Duke as a good ticket.
Meanwhile, 22% of women in the Upper West Side of New York City liked a Robert Redford/Oprah team, followed by 19% favoring George Clooney/Helen Thomas.
But primary elections are usually one party only and state by state — not national. My state, Florida, Texas, states in the South have plenty of TEA party people and the states themselves are run by republicans now, many of them conservative. Moderates do not play well to the TEA party. Big states (not Nevada), like the states in the South earn candidates big delegate votes in the primaries.
Nevada is full of every kind of corruption. Conservatives are no where near as strong as they are here. So don’t try to equate that state to Florida or Texas or any other southern state. No other candidate will get TEA party help like Sarah Palin. With them behind her, she will have a huge advantage in some of the bigger states even in the North. All Romney’s money will be as effective as it was in the 2008 election without enthusiastic hard working people in the field. Unless one of these moderates can get the TEA parties behind them, they won’t win anything.
To do that, some will have to overcome lack of name recognition, the fact that they are moderates, in most cases lack of money, and a wide open field of also rans. Sarah may have a bad reputation among the Country Clubbers, but she does fine with the TEA parties. She’s not a moderate, the TEA parties won’t have to figure out whether she is one of them or not. And whenever she asks, people send her money. Finally, the more open the field, the more the others split the also ran vote.
I just don’t see how the moderates can stop her if she wants to run. That is a good thing because even if she decides not run, she will have a say as to which conservative gets nominated.
That said, I agree with the poster who points out that a 52-44 percent lead among registered (not likely) voters two years out is pretty cold comfort for Obama.
Sad but mostly true. Palin has no problem with most men voters who are not brainwashed lefties. Her problem is women.
I would guess at least 50% of women will not vote for her for all sorts of weird reasons - abortion, she is too pretty, jealous she has a nice husband, her hair is too nice, they want the handsome guy like Mitt (LOL!), they want a “strong” man. It really is baffling.
Sad but true - Palin cant win due to women, not men.
LOL! I love that - Pretend republican in conservative clothes (PRICC) - I’ll have to remember that along with Republican in name only (RINO) and Democrat in all but label only (DIABLO).
what about Marco Rubio?? at least as VP
But Reagan had the ability to go through or above the media. Even so, as popular as he was, maybe his landslide victories would have been even bigger with a fair media.
I like Palin, but I doubt she could win a general presidential election.
One of those things that just rolled right out.
For the flagrant violators, you know, the blue dogs that want to claim they hold to TEA Party standards we can mark with a special version...
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I think there's a natural majority for fiscal conservatism in the US.
I do not believe there is a natural majority for social conservatives. I think a majority of people would describe themselves as your son did.
Great analysis.
I feel like I’m listening to little Karl Rove Juniors in here tonight.
Hey, if you guys can do it better than Palin...get your sorry a$$es up and run! If not, STFU!
I am not picking on Palin - I am picking on women who judge her for weird reasons and come up with bizarre rationalizations not to vote for her. Often they are really catty.
I think the major reason is women are more susceptible to the garbage spewed by TV - ALL TV is crap - ALL of it. I know a lot of women who watch garbage like The View. TV is constant repetition of lies and garbage aka brainwashing. I despise TV. If you have disgusting women and men on TV attacking her ad nauseum - day in and day out - it seeps in. You tell a lie enough times - it becomes the truth. See "stupid white men" commercials on TV. Face it - people who watch TV are idiots because Tv - ALL of TV helps Obama and the elites.
You’d think that the media would be all for Gov. palin. She’s smart, photogenic, charismatic, popular: a rock star.
Strange. /s
Good observations.
It just drives me buggy when i hear that “Palin’s got too much baggage...” says who? I refuse to accept the baggage that the MSM has falsely placed on her. Good grief, they savaged this lady in every way possible, and she’s still standing! We know the left still fears her, because they’re still attacking her.
Now, I fully understand that some may have a preference of another candidate...fine. But when they base their disappointment of Palin off of the false attacks that the MSM and the Libs have put on her; then we’re accepting the Left’s premise! It’s this same attitude that had the party elites give us a RINO!
I wonder how any of us would’ve faired if we had been savaged like this lady? I will not throw this lady under the bus because of what the Left thinks about her.
Is there anybody in this forum that has a past that’s as pure as the wind driven snow? NO! And as I said: If other people in here think they can do a better job than Palin, get up off your sorry A$$ and run...lets see how you hold up with non-stop attacks from the MSM and the Left!
People get tired of me singing the evils of TV including Al Waleed’s Fox. He has his fingers on all 6 US networks. Bloomberg approving the 9/11 Mosque has to due with keeping and expanding access to islamic countries for his company. It means tens of billions.
By paying for cable and sat TV - people giving each network $5 to 6 a month.
Sarah is the biggest threat to the Dems. The Dems/elites/left main tool is blackmail and smearing - they have dirt on everybody. Sarah must be pretty damn clean because you would have heard about it already.
They really have nothing on her so they repeat the “baggage” lie. What baggage? It does not matter. Repeat the lie thousands of times and it becomes truth.
TV is all endless repetition of lies to brainwash the masses. I would guess if you asked a lib about Sarah - they would say “she is evil and stupid.” Then ask them why or what makes them think this is true.
They would not have a coherent answer. If it was a woman she probably heard it from the view, Maddow, all the disgusting libs on TV, Cher and various other idiots and celebs. I think women are more conditioned to value what celebs say and think. Men it is probably ball players opinions who might influence them.
Note I am talking about moderates and libs - avg Joe and Janes. Conservative men and women are more sensitive to detecting lies and mindless nonsense from the media.
I know from working with women that a small office is less appealing to most women because most women are more social animals especially with other women. I think it is the way women interact. More caring with each other.
Men from prehistoric times are programmed to be almost confrontational with each other. Men usually say less and talk about sports.
One woman who saw The View can influence their office network or social group of friends. i think women and men like to be accept by the group. We usually all want to get along and go along.
It is really crowd psychology.
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