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CNN Poll: Obama vs. Palin in 2012? (Guess who most Republicans prefer as Candidate?)
CNN Political Ticker ^ | 11/04/2010

Posted on 11/04/2010 5:48:31 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: Frantzie
Why? I think liberal and even moderate women will not vote for Palin. Women can be incredibly catty.

I have always maintained that Sarah would make some real inroads among women if she was the very first woman to win a major party nomination in her own right. However, more and more I'm coming to see that is not the case.

A third of the women in America are sluts who will NEVER vote for anyone who wants to put even the mildest restraints on baby-killing. A third of the women in America are lazy welfare chiselers who are married to the government and will NEVER vote for anyone who wants to derail the gravy train. A third of the women in America are ugly wallflowers who never outgrew high school and will NEVER vote for any confident, attractive woman with a handsome and manly husband. Obviously there is some overlap amng these categories, but put together they are a clear majority of women who will turn out in droves to vote against her. Ann Coulter may have been right about the folly of womens' suffrage!

81 posted on 11/04/2010 7:22:41 PM PDT by ccmay (Too much Law; not enough Order)
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To: SeekAndFind

My polling shows that Mondale/Shabazz would be a winning team for the democrats. Much better than obuma/plugs.

Only 32% of registered voters support obuma for 2012, while 107% of blacks support Mondale/Shabazz.

When college students were asked to name their dream-team presidential ticket, 27% favored Shiela “Bug-Eyes” Jackson Lee/Alan Grayson. Another 18% liked John Conyers/David Duke as a good ticket.

Meanwhile, 22% of women in the Upper West Side of New York City liked a Robert Redford/Oprah team, followed by 19% favoring George Clooney/Helen Thomas.


82 posted on 11/04/2010 7:26:00 PM PDT by sergeantdave
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To: ubaldus

But primary elections are usually one party only and state by state — not national. My state, Florida, Texas, states in the South have plenty of TEA party people and the states themselves are run by republicans now, many of them conservative. Moderates do not play well to the TEA party. Big states (not Nevada), like the states in the South earn candidates big delegate votes in the primaries.

Nevada is full of every kind of corruption. Conservatives are no where near as strong as they are here. So don’t try to equate that state to Florida or Texas or any other southern state. No other candidate will get TEA party help like Sarah Palin. With them behind her, she will have a huge advantage in some of the bigger states even in the North. All Romney’s money will be as effective as it was in the 2008 election without enthusiastic hard working people in the field. Unless one of these moderates can get the TEA parties behind them, they won’t win anything.

To do that, some will have to overcome lack of name recognition, the fact that they are moderates, in most cases lack of money, and a wide open field of also rans. Sarah may have a bad reputation among the Country Clubbers, but she does fine with the TEA parties. She’s not a moderate, the TEA parties won’t have to figure out whether she is one of them or not. And whenever she asks, people send her money. Finally, the more open the field, the more the others split the also ran vote.

I just don’t see how the moderates can stop her if she wants to run. That is a good thing because even if she decides not run, she will have a say as to which conservative gets nominated.


83 posted on 11/04/2010 7:26:33 PM PDT by Waryone (RINOs, Elites, and Socialists - on the endangered list, soon to become extinct.)
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To: ccmay

That said, I agree with the poster who points out that a 52-44 percent lead among registered (not likely) voters two years out is pretty cold comfort for Obama.


84 posted on 11/04/2010 7:26:35 PM PDT by ccmay (Too much Law; not enough Order)
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To: ccmay

Sad but mostly true. Palin has no problem with most men voters who are not brainwashed lefties. Her problem is women.

I would guess at least 50% of women will not vote for her for all sorts of weird reasons - abortion, she is too pretty, jealous she has a nice husband, her hair is too nice, they want the handsome guy like Mitt (LOL!), they want a “strong” man. It really is baffling.


85 posted on 11/04/2010 7:28:12 PM PDT by Frantzie (Imam Ob*m* & Democrats support the VICTORY MOSQUE & TV supports Imam)
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To: Frantzie

Sad but true - Palin cant win due to women, not men.


86 posted on 11/04/2010 7:32:22 PM PDT by GlockThe Vote
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To: TLI

LOL! I love that - Pretend republican in conservative clothes (PRICC) - I’ll have to remember that along with Republican in name only (RINO) and Democrat in all but label only (DIABLO).


87 posted on 11/04/2010 7:38:26 PM PDT by Waryone (RINOs, Elites, and Socialists - on the endangered list, soon to become extinct.)
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To: SeekAndFind

what about Marco Rubio?? at least as VP


88 posted on 11/04/2010 7:53:07 PM PDT by annelizly
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To: Psalm 144

But Reagan had the ability to go through or above the media. Even so, as popular as he was, maybe his landslide victories would have been even bigger with a fair media.

I like Palin, but I doubt she could win a general presidential election.


89 posted on 11/04/2010 8:14:27 PM PDT by Aetius
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To: Waryone
LOL! I love that - Pretend republican in conservative clothes (PRICC)

One of those things that just rolled right out.

For the flagrant violators, you know, the blue dogs that want to claim they hold to TEA Party standards we can mark with a special version...



PЯICC

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90 posted on 11/04/2010 8:47:47 PM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: vaudine
Even my lawyer son told me today he is a tea party sympathizer, and he is fiscally conservative but socially a libertarian...

I think there's a natural majority for fiscal conservatism in the US.

I do not believe there is a natural majority for social conservatives. I think a majority of people would describe themselves as your son did.

91 posted on 11/04/2010 8:57:23 PM PDT by gogeo ("Every one has a right to be an idiot. He abuses the privilege!" Groucho Marx)
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To: vaudine

Great analysis.


92 posted on 11/04/2010 8:58:19 PM PDT by gogeo ("Every one has a right to be an idiot. He abuses the privilege!" Groucho Marx)
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To: Frantzie
My problem with Palin is women suck at voting for other women.

It reduces to female status envy. If Palin was uglier, or less chipper, or dressed like a man all of the time, other women wouldn't feel threatened by her. Especially women with college degrees, who feel anxious about their own social value by the very idea that a prole like Palin can make it.

Not only are women more status-oriented than men, women are far more sexist than men, something a lot of White Knight male traditionalists have a difficult time accepting for some reason.
93 posted on 11/04/2010 9:00:33 PM PDT by JHBowden (Keep the Change!)
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To: SeekAndFind

I feel like I’m listening to little Karl Rove Juniors in here tonight.

Hey, if you guys can do it better than Palin...get your sorry a$$es up and run! If not, STFU!


94 posted on 11/04/2010 9:21:33 PM PDT by Artcore
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To: Brilliant
I’m going with Pence.

I'm going with Palin.
95 posted on 11/04/2010 9:38:31 PM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: KoRn
Palin can not win a presidential race.

I like her, but recognize her limitations.


Yeah, right.

Ha! Ha! Ha!

You wish concern Troll!
96 posted on 11/04/2010 9:39:44 PM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: Artcore
Karl rove is an idiot. I like Palin. I still think if you take masses of women - most of em vote like s**t. See libs states, they elected Obama, etc etc.

I am not picking on Palin - I am picking on women who judge her for weird reasons and come up with bizarre rationalizations not to vote for her. Often they are really catty.

I think the major reason is women are more susceptible to the garbage spewed by TV - ALL TV is crap - ALL of it. I know a lot of women who watch garbage like The View. TV is constant repetition of lies and garbage aka brainwashing. I despise TV. If you have disgusting women and men on TV attacking her ad nauseum - day in and day out - it seeps in. You tell a lie enough times - it becomes the truth. See "stupid white men" commercials on TV. Face it - people who watch TV are idiots because Tv - ALL of TV helps Obama and the elites.

97 posted on 11/04/2010 10:22:21 PM PDT by Frantzie (Imam Ob*m* & Democrats support the VICTORY MOSQUE & TV supports Imam)
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To: Frantzie

You’d think that the media would be all for Gov. palin. She’s smart, photogenic, charismatic, popular: a rock star.

Strange. /s


98 posted on 11/04/2010 10:25:57 PM PDT by AFreeBird
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To: Frantzie

Good observations.

It just drives me buggy when i hear that “Palin’s got too much baggage...” says who? I refuse to accept the baggage that the MSM has falsely placed on her. Good grief, they savaged this lady in every way possible, and she’s still standing! We know the left still fears her, because they’re still attacking her.

Now, I fully understand that some may have a preference of another candidate...fine. But when they base their disappointment of Palin off of the false attacks that the MSM and the Libs have put on her; then we’re accepting the Left’s premise! It’s this same attitude that had the party elites give us a RINO!

I wonder how any of us would’ve faired if we had been savaged like this lady? I will not throw this lady under the bus because of what the Left thinks about her.

Is there anybody in this forum that has a past that’s as pure as the wind driven snow? NO! And as I said: If other people in here think they can do a better job than Palin, get up off your sorry A$$ and run...lets see how you hold up with non-stop attacks from the MSM and the Left!


99 posted on 11/04/2010 10:35:36 PM PDT by Artcore
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To: Artcore

People get tired of me singing the evils of TV including Al Waleed’s Fox. He has his fingers on all 6 US networks. Bloomberg approving the 9/11 Mosque has to due with keeping and expanding access to islamic countries for his company. It means tens of billions.

By paying for cable and sat TV - people giving each network $5 to 6 a month.

Sarah is the biggest threat to the Dems. The Dems/elites/left main tool is blackmail and smearing - they have dirt on everybody. Sarah must be pretty damn clean because you would have heard about it already.

They really have nothing on her so they repeat the “baggage” lie. What baggage? It does not matter. Repeat the lie thousands of times and it becomes truth.

TV is all endless repetition of lies to brainwash the masses. I would guess if you asked a lib about Sarah - they would say “she is evil and stupid.” Then ask them why or what makes them think this is true.

They would not have a coherent answer. If it was a woman she probably heard it from the view, Maddow, all the disgusting libs on TV, Cher and various other idiots and celebs. I think women are more conditioned to value what celebs say and think. Men it is probably ball players opinions who might influence them.

Note I am talking about moderates and libs - avg Joe and Janes. Conservative men and women are more sensitive to detecting lies and mindless nonsense from the media.

I know from working with women that a small office is less appealing to most women because most women are more social animals especially with other women. I think it is the way women interact. More caring with each other.

Men from prehistoric times are programmed to be almost confrontational with each other. Men usually say less and talk about sports.

One woman who saw The View can influence their office network or social group of friends. i think women and men like to be accept by the group. We usually all want to get along and go along.

It is really crowd psychology.


100 posted on 11/04/2010 11:04:25 PM PDT by Frantzie (Imam Ob*m* & Democrats support the VICTORY MOSQUE & TV supports Imam)
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