[Lurking Libertarian]

Back in Ronald Reagan's day, the Latino vote in California was very competitive between Ds & Rs; Mexican-Americans tend to be socially conservative, if economically liberal. What changed everything was Pete Wilson's support for the anti-illegal immigrant Proposition 187 in 1994; that made Mexican-Americans (even the ones whose families had been in California for decades) turn on the Republicans. California elections have never been the same since then.

[curiosity]

Here's a good article debunking with hard data the 187-is-to-blame conventional wisdom.

[A CA Guy]

In Ronald Reagan's days there weren't that many Latinos compared with today. Also, then the majority of them weren't paid 300% pay to go get a government job or allowed 330% of welfare handouts compared to the hand outs in other states.

California is has the lower classes hands in everyone else's wallet and we are sinking. Many of these newer citizens have no loyalty to the United States IMO because they can step over a line miles off to go home, so there is no reason to not try and confiscate the state treasury.

This state is both a Democrat's wet dream and a broke joke.

[pallis]

Large percentages of the Latino vote will do for the rest of the country what they are doing for California. If Hispanic families in California can’t understand the economic and cultural damage illegals are having on their state, to their own families, it’s unreasonable to expect things to go differently elsewhere.

Amnesty isn’t the answer. It’s better to follow Jan Brewer’s example in Arizona.

[MBB1984]

Back in Reagan's day, there were far fewer Latinos voting than today. The rise of Latinos dependent upon government handouts has risen exponentially. Add the fact that 50% of Latinos are born out of wedlock and you have a irreversible trend of parasitism and crime.

Mexifornia is coming soon to America.

[Mr. Mojo]

Back in Ronald Reagan's day, the Latino vote in California was very competitive between Ds & Rs

Yep. In fact, the GOP Presidential nominee won CA in '68, '72, '76, '80, '84, and '88. ...with either majority or pretty evenly divided Latino support. Seem when most Latino (mostly Mexican) families first get here their values are traditional/conservative, but within a generation or two they become infected by liberal ideology, both fiscal and social.

[donna]

Hispanic Family Values?

"Hispanic immigrants bring near–Third World levels of fertility to America, coupled with what were once thought to be First World levels of illegitimacy. (In fact, family breakdown is higher in many Hispanic countries than here.) Nearly half of the children born to Hispanic mothers in the U.S. are born out of wedlock, a proportion that has been increasing rapidly with no signs of slowing down."
Source

The "Prop 187 killed the California GOP" narrative is first based upon a misconceived view of the Republican Party's historic strength in California.

Source

[chuckee]

Californians voted themselves the double whammy restoring a free spending liberal to the governorship and voting yes in no longer requiring a 2/3 legislative majority to approve the budget only a simple majority. Basically, the bankrupt state voted to dig its own grave. The House must kill all bills that try to backdoor bailout the state. Hopefully, they let it go into default so they learn what the word consequences means.The only way the Feds should agree to guarantee their bonds is if they turn over the fiscal management of the state from the Governor and legislature to an outside body much like NYC had to do in the 70s to clean up their act.

[zeestephen]

Lurking Libertarian writes:

“Mexican-Americans tend to be socially conservative, if economically liberal.”

Socially conservative?

What bunk!

California-Mexicans have the highest illegitimate birth rate in the state.

California-Mexicans have the worst school drop out rate in the state.

The incarceration rate for California-Mexicans is only a fraction behind the incarceration rate for California-Blacks.

California-Mexicans are Hard Left, on every issue, all the time.

California-Mexicans vote 80% for Democrats, all the time.

Does anyone here actually believe the Democratic Party would support Immigration Amnesty if they thought California-Mexicans could be converted to Republicans?

[JewishRighter]

Query: Can the rest of the United States secede from California?
Query: When is that next big earthquake expected out there?
Query: Is it too soon to officially recognize it as Mexifornia?
Query: Will we allow Mexifornians to freely immigrate to the other 49 states when Mexifornia sinks under the mudslide of corruption, drug wars, murder and violence that is coming?
Query: Will Mexifornians one day do the jobs Americans don’t want to do?

Sadly, these are not really joke questions.

[Irenic]

[LibLieSlayer]

Maybe those LAAAATEEEENOOOOOS voters will bail your sorry arses out, when you can no longer pay your light bill or all state checks bounce. FU california.

LLS

[NormsRevenge]

Stukc on Studip.. Ca GoP flounders to finish line.. again.

[Oldpuppymax]

Of course we’ll never KNOW how many of those Latinos were actually CITIZENS of the US!! Democrats always make certain that no one has to PROVE citizenship and spineless republicans never COMPLAIN!!!!

[PATRIOT1876]

Now comes time to carefully recount and throw out all the illegal votes made by illegal aliens

[skeeter]

What changed everything was Pete Wilson's support for the anti-illegal immigrant Proposition 187 in 1994

Wrong. On the contrary, if 187 had been allowed to stand California would be competitive today.

Back in the day a much larger percentage of the latino vote had roots here extending back more than 5 or 10 years. Less susceptible to the democrat's racial pandering. THAT is the difference.

[Wuli]

Yes, the useful idiot lemmings will follow their political puppet masters - right into the Pacific Ocean. And may God have mercy on their souls.

[Rocky]

Liberal California, like a millstone around the neck of the rational portion of the state, is dragging them all into a cesspool of debt, poverty, and loss of liberty. But liberals don’t care about liberty. They want everyone to conform to the liberals’ ideals.