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Toomey may need move to center to win a 2nd term (BARF!)
Pittsburgh Tribune-Review ^ | 11/3/2010 | Marc Levy

Posted on 11/04/2010 5:24:20 AM PDT by surroundedbyblue

Before Republican Pat Toomey was elected to take over Arlen Specter's U.S. Senate seat, there was no shortage of warnings by Democrats that he was too conservative for middle-of-the-road Pennsylvania politics.

In fact, during the hard-fought contest with Democratic U.S. Rep. Joe Sestak, Democrats even dug up clips of two well-known conservatives — former Pennsylvania Sen. Rick Santorum and Utah Sen. Orrin Hatch — questioning Toomey's ability to get elected to the Senate.

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Toomey hasn't ever been too conservative. That's been a problem for him among Tea Partiers here in PA. Quoting people like Hatch & Santorum doesn't make it so, either.

Anyone with the pro-choice voting record he had in Congress and his support for Sotomayor isn't "too conservative". I hope someone isn't trying to let him off the hook for when his moderate stripes start showing. This smells like a setup to me.

1 posted on 11/04/2010 5:24:25 AM PDT by surroundedbyblue
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Liberals always say conservatives must move to the center to be politically viable. Notice they never move to the center themselves.

If Pat Toomey was too conservative for his state, the voters didn’t agree, who voted in Tom Corbett, a GOP statehouse and sent several Democratic House incumbents packing.

The MSM will never understand why Toomey won the other night.


2 posted on 11/04/2010 5:27:22 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: surroundedbyblue

This article from the Pittsburgh T-R is a case study in left-wing illogic.

For instance, the very fact that he got elected (even if closely, against a well-known Democrat) shows that he isn’t “too far to the right” for Pennsylvania. Plus, in 2016, he has incumbency behind him.

The only point to bringing up the clips from Santorum and Hatch now is to show that they were obviously wrong.


3 posted on 11/04/2010 5:27:42 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (is a Jim DeMint Republican. You might say he's a funDeMintalist conservative.)
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To: goldstategop

Senator Toomey, please listen to the PEOPLE not the Press! You have 6 years, don’t blow it.


4 posted on 11/04/2010 5:30:53 AM PDT by Shady (God Bless the United States of America...and your gift of LIBERTY to all!)
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Considering the Republican won, isn’t it the Democrats who need to move to the right? Not sure I follow the logic.


5 posted on 11/04/2010 5:35:20 AM PDT by ArcadeQuarters (Stuck with a local RINO? Regardless of who you vote for, donate $$$ to a different district.)
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To: surroundedbyblue

What they’re saying is Toomey has to move to the ‘Left’, which is pure BS!


6 posted on 11/04/2010 5:35:46 AM PDT by LibFreeUSA (Show me what Obama brought that was new and there you will find things only radical and destructive.)
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To: surroundedbyblue

Whatever.

Toomey is a conservative. He’s known more for his fiscal conservatisism which is why he led the Club for Growth but I don’t see him “growing” in office after everything he’d been through to get there. Two primary battles against Specter, fighting the GOP leadership with the despised CFG? If he were going to bend for political gain he’d have done so by now.

No, he’s not DeMint but he’d also representing in PA NOT SOuth Carolina. He’s a good pickup.


7 posted on 11/04/2010 5:41:17 AM PDT by Soul Seeker ( I was there when we had the numbers, but didnÂ’t have the principles.---Jim that leans conservDeMin)
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To: surroundedbyblue

LOL. Toomey hasn’t even started his first term and the MSM is giving him political advice. I guess they want him to be reelected—not.


8 posted on 11/04/2010 5:43:00 AM PDT by kabar
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“Democrats even dug up clips of two well-known conservatives — former Pennsylvania Sen. Rick Santorum and Utah Sen. Orrin Hatch “

I think the Snior Citizen’s Home has a call out for Hatch. As for Santorum, he is no conservative - unless you are comparing him to Barack Hussein.


9 posted on 11/04/2010 5:44:16 AM PDT by ZULU (No nation which tried to tolerate Islam escaped Islamization.)
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Before the elections it was all “These candidates are too far to the right to win election”. Then a large number of them won. Now it’s all “they have to move to the center or else”.

I wonder - if Sestak had won would they say he needs to “move to the center or else”?

Of course not. The MSM is as predictable as the sunrise.


10 posted on 11/04/2010 5:45:50 AM PDT by Personal Responsibility ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act" - Orwell)
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But the Pgh Tibune Rebview is supposed to be the conservative paper. What’s up??

I heard Toomey say something about “reaching across the aisle.” If he ends up screwing the conservative base that GOT HIM ELECTED, we’ll have to re-cast the phrase to: Hell hath no fury like that of a CONSERVATIVE” scorned.

I refused to vote for Santorum after he supported Spectre (yes, I know) over Toomey and Toomey can expect the same if he “moderates.”

Maybe the 2 x 4 we’re using is made of the wrong wood. We need ironwood, not balsa.


11 posted on 11/04/2010 5:50:15 AM PDT by PA BOOKEND
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In fact, during the hard-fought contest with Democratic U.S. Rep. Joe Sestak, Democrats even dug up clips of two well-known conservatives — former Pennsylvania Sen. Rick Santorum

Considered that Santorum got absolutely hammered in 2006 when running as an incumbent, he's hardly the guy to look for regarding electability advice in Pennsylvania.

12 posted on 11/04/2010 5:51:27 AM PDT by dirtboy
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If he won in ‘10 as a conservative why does he need to move to the center to win again? I’m tired of this mantra that a conservative can’t win PA. Santorum did it in ‘94 and 2000, and Toomey and Corbett just did it.

When will people realize that the big story of this recent election cycle is that the old rules-incumbents aren’t challenged in primaries, the party establishment picks the candidate, the people are asleep and indifferent, and certain states can’t elect conservatives- are GONE.

In other words:

Come senators, congressmen
Please heed the call
Don’t stand in the doorway
Don’t block up the hall
For he that gets hurt
Will be he who has stalled
There’s a battle outside ragin’.
It’ll soon shake your windows
And rattle your walls
For the times they are a-changin’.


13 posted on 11/04/2010 5:58:56 AM PDT by almcbean
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To: PA BOOKEND

I voted for Toomey but I am worried that he is a moderate masquerading as a conservative

BTW, if you read the Trib, there’s an article today about Mike Doyle (douchbag congressman) entering the polling places on Tuesday, which is against the law. I’m quoted as saying that we’re not mere mortals & they’re not the ruling elite. Doyle sucks & pissed me off with his attitude. He was beligerent when we told him he had to leave. Typical. I hope this do-nothing loses his seat to redistricting.


14 posted on 11/04/2010 6:00:33 AM PDT by surroundedbyblue
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The guy was just elected 36 hours ago; he won’t take the seat until January, and already the “media” is counseling him on how to stay in the Senate.

Note to the “media:” How about a nice, tall glass of STFU?


15 posted on 11/04/2010 6:02:14 AM PDT by ScottinVA (The West needs to act NOW to aggressively treat its metastasizing islaminoma!)
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Before Republican Pat Toomey was elected to take over Arlen Specter's U.S. Senate seat, there was no shortage of warnings by Democrats that he was too conservative for middle-of-the-road Pennsylvania politics.

But he WON, didn't he???


16 posted on 11/04/2010 6:03:53 AM PDT by ScottinVA (The West needs to act NOW to aggressively treat its metastasizing islaminoma!)
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Anyone with the pro-choice voting record he had in Congress and his support for Sotomayor isn't "too conservative". I hope someone isn't trying to let him off the hook for when his moderate stripes start showing. This smells like a setup to me.

I agree he shouldn't have voiced support for Sotomayor, but I'm not seeing the pro-choice charge. He has a 0% NARAL rating. That works for me.

17 posted on 11/04/2010 6:08:05 AM PDT by ScottinVA (The West needs to act NOW to aggressively treat its metastasizing islaminoma!)
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Considered that Santorum got absolutely hammered in 2006 when running as an incumbent, he's hardly the guy to look for regarding electability advice in Pennsylvania.

Philly paper ran hit piece after hit piece on Santorum

2006 was the anti Bush year --the dems reclaimed congress --with the huge democrat makeup of Philly ( 50% black who are 95% democrat and the idiot lib white voters ) and Pittsburg and the democrat vote fraud machines in both cities it is amazing any centrist let alone a conservative gets elected --It is all about turnout and fraud
18 posted on 11/04/2010 6:09:08 AM PDT by uncbob
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Santorum gave them the hammers to hit him with.


19 posted on 11/04/2010 6:12:22 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: surroundedbyblue

When did Orin Hatch become a hardened conservative? I must have missed it.


20 posted on 11/04/2010 6:13:44 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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