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Watts Up With That? ^
| November 3, 2010
| Anthony Watts
Posted on 11/03/2010 2:15:10 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Carry_Okie
My wife’s Riviera went from 28 mpg to 25 overnight and eventually every gas station in Humboldt county had to dig up their tanks and haul the contaminated soil to a “approved” dump site. It was as though the MTBE seeped through the walls of the tanks
To: tubebender
It was as though the MTBE seeped through the walls of the tanks "Diffused" is the correct word, and yes, it did. The oil companies knew it would happen too. There are not a few executives and lawyers who belong in jail, particularly at the NRDC.
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posted on
11/03/2010 4:49:02 PM PDT
by
Carry_Okie
(The environment is too complex and too important to manage by central planning.)
To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
From the article:
"But, as weve seen, the argument about global warming, AB32, and Prop 23 isnt about science, its about emotions, icons, power, elitism, and money. Lots of money."
That sums it up very well.
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posted on
11/03/2010 5:47:57 PM PDT
by
Marine_Uncle
(Honor must be earned....)
To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Politics in California is about as corrupt as it gets in the US. Whitman nanny-gate, mean Texas Oil Companies, shipping HP jobs over seas and illegals voting. If Whitman or Fiorina had been conservatives we would have seen something similar to the Strip Club Gate that felled Herchinson. California is becoming Mexico. We will literally have an elite rich class ruling a bunch of peasants getting shot up by the gangs that rebel against the rich elites. Business climate in Kalifornia collapsed this year and gets worse every day. Nobody in the middle class has any money. The middle class is all leaving. Non-corrupt businesses are leaving. The good news is the rest of the nation can use failed Kalifornia as an example of what not to do.
To: tubebender; Carry_Okie; SierraWasp; Czar; NormsRevenge; CounterCounterCulture; ElkGroveDan
The NO on Prop 23 campaign was flowing with millions of dollars from extortionists, enviro wackos, and a whole host of new age and more traditional robber barons. There is a long list of venture capitalists and hedge fund managers pushing green energy, to cash in on their early investments. That category would include Arnie's buddy RFKjr (VantagePoint) who is pushing his massive solar farm (on federal land, courtesy of you the taxpayer.) It would also include John Doerr and his wife who gave a couple of million. (He's the one from Kleiner Perkins who co-authored with Carly an editorial pushing the Proposition to bypass Prop 13 in voting for school bonds. See
here. He can usually be found contributing big bucks to propositions that will cause dollars to flow into
his bank account). Even Julian Robertson got in on the action. Gee, I wonder where he has his Tiger $ invested!
Whether wind or solar or algae, just about every "investor" seems to think that putting oil companies out of business and forcing citizens to pay 10X times more for energy is a good idea.
You will also find some supposed do-gooders giving money to No on Prop 23, like the Sierra club, the Google founders, Julia Packard. Even the bankrupt Tesla Motors was doling out money to the NO on 23 campaign.
Then, of course, you've got the extortionist groups like the NRDC, the Tides Foundation, the Environmental Defense Fund (who also benefitted from $300K from Meg), and others.
And then, you had the head cheerleader: Arnold Schwarzenegger. You know, the guy that was going to save the California Republican Party with his wizardry and brilliance in commerce. He couldn't help himself from railing about the evil Texas Oil Companies and the greedy rich people that wanted to pollute the air.
How can you resent Bill Gates wanting to be a part of that cocktail party?
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posted on
11/03/2010 6:21:07 PM PDT
by
calcowgirl
(YES on PROP 23!)
To: calcowgirl
How can you resent Bill Gates wanting to be a part of that cocktail party? A peon like me couldn't stand a party like that. I'd be too busy trying to keep the vomit off my tie to have any fun blowing what's left of their minds.
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posted on
11/03/2010 6:31:34 PM PDT
by
Carry_Okie
(The environment is too complex and too important to manage by central planning.)
To: Carry_Okie
I understand the sentiment.
If I got an invitation, you’d find me at home - washin’ my hair.
;-)
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posted on
11/03/2010 6:45:38 PM PDT
by
calcowgirl
(YES on PROP 23!)
To: calcowgirl
Perhaps your tag line should now read RIP Prop. 23 As for this issue, there’s nothing worse than the use of class warfare against oil companies and their owners. People who honestly believe the earth is going to fry must stand up to that nonsense, but when they don’t it is obvious what their real motives are.
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posted on
11/03/2010 7:30:43 PM PDT
by
palmer
(Cooperating with Obama = helping him extend the depression and implement socialism.)
To: calcowgirl; Carry_Okie; Grampa Dave; BOBTHENAILER; Ernest_at_the_Beach
"I gotta wash them carbs right outta my hair, I gotta wash them carbs right outta my hair and send them to TX to dry their hair with the blast from a Valero smokestack!!! Ha Ha Ha!!!
Give me gas for my car, keep me rollin... Give me gas from Valero, I prey... Give me gas for my car, keep me rollin... Keep me rollin till I hit the hay!!!
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posted on
11/03/2010 10:43:00 PM PDT
by
SierraWasp
(Have you seen Bristol Palin's Tea Party Tango on Dancing With The Stars???)
To: palmer
As for this issue, theres nothing worse than the use of class warfare against oil companies and their owners. I have nothing against oil companies (other than their foisting of MTBE), but their owners are the single largest contributors to the Global Warming scam.
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posted on
11/03/2010 11:24:02 PM PDT
by
Carry_Okie
(The environment is too complex and too important to manage by central planning.)
To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; 11B40; A Balrog of Morgoth; A message; ACelt; Aeronaut; AFPhys; AlexW; ...
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posted on
11/04/2010 12:21:47 AM PDT
by
Tolerance Sucks Rocks
(Muslims are not the problem, the rest of the world is! /s)
To: Carry_Okie
Some of their owners. The Koch brothers are notable holdouts even with the EPA shutting down their refineries. It is literally a war against economic progress and, you are right, some of the oil company owners have joined the dark side either figuring on more profit or just saving their own butts.
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posted on
11/04/2010 3:59:13 AM PDT
by
palmer
(Cooperating with Obama = helping him extend the depression and implement socialism.)
To: palmer
some of the oil company owners have joined the dark side either figuring on more profit or just saving their own butts. The Rockefellers and the British Royals were there from the inception.
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posted on
11/04/2010 8:51:22 AM PDT
by
Carry_Okie
(The environment is too complex and too important to manage by central planning.)
To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Thanks for the ping.
Pretty simple math here.
As we saw in the Berlin occupation, there was a brain drain to the West of the best minds.
As will happen, the cooling Earth over the next 30 years will cause a migration southward.
For those who cannot find work in California and as Spain already has learned, the green job economy can’t support the populace, we should see a migration of a wide swath of occupations out of California.
Now, where will it end.
We know that Obama bargained water rights and the needs of the people for Obamacare voted before he turned on the water, an Updated “Chinatown”.
Soon the state of California will turn to the US government for a bail out rather than reverse course and be responsible for themselves.
This could domino through the US.
California believes it sets the pace for the US. Not anymore.
What California has done to itself, well we don’t need to mess with it anymore.
Arnold will be back in movie production by the first of the year. He can wash his hands of it for the people were duped into this by a chronic series of lies.
Nashing of teeth.
Thanks for the ping.
Paul
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posted on
11/04/2010 10:57:35 AM PDT
by
Paul Pierett
(Paul Pierett)
To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Aren’t Mary Nichols and Jerry Brown both investors in the Indonesian oil monopoly created by CARB ruling?
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posted on
11/04/2010 11:19:20 AM PDT
by
Califreak
(November 2008 proved that Idiocracy isn't just a movie anymore)
To: SierraWasp
Give me gas for my car, keep me rollin... Keep me rollin till I hit the hay!!! Bump!
I can't imagine living without those "evil oil companies."
To: calcowgirl
Well, I don’t need to tell you that your way of living would certainly change... BIGTIME!!! (sigh)
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posted on
11/04/2010 2:12:35 PM PDT
by
SierraWasp
(Have you seen Bristol Palin's Tea Party Tango on Dancing With The Stars???)
To: calcowgirl
There was so many things wrong about i-Carly, I had forgotten about my post at your link. ;-)
To: CounterCounterCulture
I didn’t remember it specifically but I found it when looking up keyword: johndoerr (a big contributor to the No on 23 campaign)
He seems to be on the wrong side of most propositions - and benefiting from them at the same time.
What a coincidence, huh?
To: Califreak
Arent Mary Nichols and Jerry Brown both investors in the Indonesian oil monopoly created by CARB ruling? No. Daddy Brown's oil company has been defunct for years and the US hasn't imported distillate fuel oil from Indonesia for a decade, at least.
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