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To: Colofornian
Never miss a Mormon sniping opportunity, right ?

Had somebody surveyed the Mormons, I'd bet they either went the same way the rest of the electorate did and for the same reasons, or gave Angle an edge. Why ?

Harry Reid is a "Jack Mormon". You cannot be a devout Mormon and support abortion on demand. It's a moral impossibility. He has taken numerous other stands inconsistent with Mormon teachings. So Harry's political positions would disincline Mormons from voting for him, not the reverse as you state.

84 posted on 11/03/2010 1:24:50 PM PDT by jimt
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To: jimt
Harry Reid is a "Jack Mormon". You cannot be a devout Mormon and support abortion on demand. It's a moral impossibility. He has taken numerous other stands inconsistent with Mormon teachings. So Harry's political positions would disincline Mormons from voting for him, not the reverse as you state.

What, then, is Mitt Romney, having taken stands inconsistent with Mormon teachings as he has over the course of his political career? Are Mormons disinclined to vote for him as a result, too, or does he get some sort of special consideration because he's wavered back and forth like a weathervane?

85 posted on 11/03/2010 1:28:46 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: jimt

If he is a Jack Mormon then why does he get awards from BYU on a regular basis. Oh, and the temple recommendation stuff, too.
I have a huge lds family in NV and they supported Reid, but they are all dems, so it makes sense.


87 posted on 11/03/2010 1:48:36 PM PDT by svcw (If you put a crouton on a your sundae instead of a cherry, it counts as a salad.)
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To: jimt; netmilsmom
Harry Reid is a "Jack Mormon".

Morally perhaps, but not attendance wise and not in standing with the church.

You cannot be a devout Mormon and support abortion on demand. It's a moral impossibility.

Not true.

October 2007: Here’s the FReeper story on that Reid Gets Warm Reception at BYU

Well, that’s an interesting “angle”, Jim. Please tell us, does BYU usually invite “MINOs” to speak at all-student body, all-faculty rallies? (‘Cause guess what? That’s exactly what BYU did in October 2007 – ensuring Reid spoke to over 4,000 on campus. Here’s the FReeper story on that Reid Gets Warm Reception at BYU

From the above linked article, written by the Lds church owned Deseret News: At the end of his speech, Reid earned a standing ovation from a small percentage of the crowd and applause from the rest.

Tell us, Jim do BYU students & faculty usually applaud ALL MINOs like that?

Not only that, but the Salt Lake Tribune ran an October 2009 article – here. Harry Reid: A Mormon in the Middle

Here were two “interesting” comments by fellow Mormons about Reid, including one from Sen. Orrin Hatch: Bennett's Utah Senate colleague, Orrin Hatch, says it's not fair for fellow Mormons to disparage Reid as anything but a devout Mormon..."I can personally tell you that Harry is a good member of the LDS faith and he was expressing a personal opinion that his side feels very deeply about," Hatch says.

Well, there ya go, Jim. Are you being contentious against Sen. Hatch by calling him a liar – or mistaken – re: his eval of Reid?

I mean, come on Jim, the Salt Lake Trib article also mentioned how ”Today, Reid, with his security escort in tow, likely will be making his home teaching rounds after his ward's three-hour service. Anyone who questions his Mormon credentials should see that, says Jim Vlock, his home-teaching companion.

I mean, what? Do you think the Mormon church just allows any nominal "Jack" Mormon to become home-teaching companions? Really?

So there ya go, Jim – yet another Mormon “testimonial” about Reid that claims he is a bonifide Mormon. (Of course, we all know how mistaken those Mormon testimonials are all the time about another Mormon leader – a Mr. Joseph Smith -- so I guess Mr. Vlock can be wrong just like all the other Mormon testimonials, eh?)

Never miss a Mormon sniping opportunity, right?

Well, one more thing, Jim, that same Salt Lake Trib article makes this claim: "I think some of the most unChristian-like letters, phone calls, contacts I've had were from members of the [LDS] church, saying some of the most mean things that are not in the realm of our church doctrine or certainly Christianity," Reid said...

Wow! Jim. I guess you just don't keep up on out-West politics and the way the Mormon church interacts with powermongerers --
--both from the hierarchical vantage point [Lds church making Reid a home-teaching companion and rolling out the red carpet for Reid @ BYU three years ago]
--as well as how apparently grassroots haven't missed their opportunities to "snipe at Reid" in supposedly very "unChristian-like" manners...eh? But "no comment" from you re: the Mormon snipers?

But this whole thing is quite ironic, Jim: Here you start off a false, gossipy rumor claiming Harry Reid is a MINO…and here Harry Reid was claiming in an interview a year ago that based upon the ”letters, phone calls, contacts I’ve had…from members of the [LDS] church,” he apparently thinks many Mormons are CINOs! (Christians in Name Only)

So, who’s right in all this Jim?
Sen. Hatch?
Harry Reid?
BYU’s speaker invite committee?
Lds Home-Teaching companion assigners?
Reid's home-teaching companion, Mr. Jim Vlock?
You? He has taken numerous other stands inconsistent with Mormon teachings. So Harry's political positions would disincline Mormons from voting for him, not the reverse as you state.

89 posted on 11/03/2010 1:52:13 PM PDT by Colofornian ("So how do LDS deal with the [Adam-God] phenomenon? WE DON'T; WE SIMPLY SET IT ASIDE" - BYU prof)
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