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Challenge to the MEN of Free Republic: RESPOND. (vanity)

Posted on 10/24/2010 6:57:34 AM PDT by cycle of discernment

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To: cycle of discernment

And who it the largest voting block that put Bill Clinton in office, ANSWER IS WOMEN.


81 posted on 10/24/2010 9:31:36 AM PDT by bmwcyle (It is Satan's fault)
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To: mad_as_he$$

You Betcha, Now thats how it’s done.


82 posted on 10/24/2010 9:34:18 AM PDT by eastforker (Visit me at http://www.eastforker.com)
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To: Luke21

“Women are innocent in all this? Where is the plea for women to stand up? Are their any females of that caliber left?

You may call those words bait, but they were culled directly from the article. It seems you think those words are OK if directed at men, but not acceptable when aimed at women.

Where does this article talk about Republican women or Republican men. Apparently you have a lot of pent up emotion that influences the way you interpret what you read.

This article and my responses to it have nothing to do with politics, but you seem insistent on reading political issues into them. That probably speaks more to your personal biases than to the objective truth.


83 posted on 10/24/2010 9:36:38 AM PDT by csmusaret (If the Bush recession ended in June 2009, did the Obama economy begin in July 2009?)
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To: Jvette
I find the most attractive men to be the quiet hero type who has faith in God and strives to be a good man

We're here. We just get ignored because we are quiet.

84 posted on 10/24/2010 9:38:41 AM PDT by airborne (Why is it we won't allow the Bible in school, but we will in prison? Think about it.)
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To: cycle of discernment

I get what you are saying, and I think a similar call should go out to women too.

What is cracking me up over here, is some of these responses. I had to check and make sure I’m not at DU because, oh my goodness, whatever happened to personal responsibility?

If you believe porn is wrong, and you participate in it, you lack self control. Period. It’s not because your wife is fat. If your wife’s being fat makes you look at porn, you have some other issues to deal with.

If you are fat, it’s because you lack self control (except for those cases due to certain medical conditions). Period. It is not because your husband doesn’t love you enough. If all your self-esteem is wrapped up in your husband, you have other issues to deal with.

If a man or woman doesn’t fight for conservatism, it’s for any number of reasons, including laziness. It’s no-one’s fault but your own unless someone is holding a gun to your head and saying you can’t. And maybe even then, you still have a choice.

We are all responsible for our own actions, men and women. It is the liberal mindset to believe everyone else is the cause of their problems.


85 posted on 10/24/2010 9:39:12 AM PDT by justsaynomore (We've got some altering and abolishing to do! - Herman Cain)
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To: cycle of discernment
Clinton should have hung his head in shame and and been ostracized from society. This lack of moral decency, a lowering of any standard of integrity other than some manufactured BS, opened the doors for a corrupt and lying Barack Obama.

This is simply not true. What open the door for this is a century long attack upon the nations Judeo-Christian heritage. The moral code laid down by this heritage enabled this nation to be born and to flourish. Alan Keys and you are absolutely correct in that our nation's troubles are simply a manifestation of the moral crisis of the majority of individual citizens. I am not a church goer but I believe in and love God and try to honor him by following his commandments. I fall short as any man does but I do strive to comply. In this nation I think this is the minimum standard we need to get back to.

86 posted on 10/24/2010 9:40:08 AM PDT by Nuc 1.1 (Liberals aren't Patriots. Remember 1789!)
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To: csmusaret
“Where does this article talk about Republican women or Republican men. Apparently you have a lot of pent up emotion that influences the way you interpret what you read.

This article and my responses to it have nothing to do with politics, but you seem insistent on reading political issues into them. That probably speaks more to your personal biases than to the objective truth.”

Stop playing amateur psychiatrist. Nowhere did I insult you, nor did I intend to. This is a political forum, not a religious forum for your myopic nonsense. You insult strangers and project your own idiotic and judgmental little prejudices onto them. That speaks of your coarseness and sensitivity, not anyone else’s. Your condescending tone is immense. I was interacting as an adult, making theoretical points. You in turn decided to act as an offended child against someone who meant you no harm, and is simply passing time.

Go play with your rattle somewhere else, and get your diaper changed while you are at it.

87 posted on 10/24/2010 9:48:52 AM PDT by Luke21
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To: cycle of discernment

Here is a relevant thread you might find interesting.

Stopping Pornography from Destroying Lives
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/2613412/posts


88 posted on 10/24/2010 9:53:50 AM PDT by airborne (Why is it we won't allow the Bible in school, but we will in prison? Think about it.)
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To: SaraJohnson

Nice rant.


89 posted on 10/24/2010 9:58:32 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Playing by the rules only works if both sides do it!)
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To: airborne

Some of us see you and Thank God for you:)


90 posted on 10/24/2010 9:58:55 AM PDT by Jvette
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To: SaraJohnson

Great post.

Should be read by everyone.

I’m a fan of Coulter’s ‘tough medicine’ message.

She nails females, rightfully— for their flakey propensity to follow/support a man because he’s “powerful” or “charming”...or because the media has peddled him as some demigod.

Coulter’s even suggested that women shouldn’t vote because of this shallow emotionally-spawned nonsense!

Having said this hard stuff (and I am NOT supporting the thwarting of ANYONE’S right to vote—although increasingly I’m attracted to the idea that only property owners should vote!).

But I KNOW there is reason behind everything—and the point I’ve been trying to make —clumsily— is that females behave the way they do because of eons of encoding.

Protection..the more powerful the male, famous, rich..even famous by notoriety— it all equates to that insistent voice inside the female that rings the bell..”He can protect me and my offspring!”

Don’t blame women for that..blame the Creator! It’s part of the machinery of the system.

HOWEVER, it can wreak havoc, as it does todsay, when sly and dishonest opportunists ( the left) use it as a manipulative lever—and they have done so effectively, hence the women suportive of the cad Clinton, the sleazebag Obama.

AND when woman do not contemplate their choices more dispassionately, when they do not discern TRUTH over ‘feel-good’ crap, they are being played...and we as a country are being hurt.

Let’s be fair, many women are very successful business people, they are critical thinkers and tremendously intelligent contributors—others like Palin are emerging as leaders. But it is the vast, celebrity-besotted ‘asleep’ that worries me. More female than male, stats tell us this.

So I do still believe it is the MALES with true grit, fortitude and focus that must drive us from the mire.

Maybe it is just male’s sheer competitive indignation—it was evolved for a reason too—and we need it to pull us in the right direction.

It is males that have demonstrated that they are more immune to the manipulative mezmerizing of the socialist/lib message...i have to go with that.

But I ask them to do more..to step up and transcend this mountain of a hurdle, and set a strong and moral example....not to self medicate with destructive habits.

Agree that the hideous feminazis have wrought atrocious damage—they are the worst of the worst, a misanthropic virus. I am parent to two sons, I am appalled at the feminazi’s ilk and how they have sought to destroy men.


91 posted on 10/24/2010 10:05:18 AM PDT by cycle of discernment
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To: cycle of discernment
"No, you go away....."

Several years ago, I told a somewhat conservative woman at work that the 19th Amendment was a huge cause of our troubles, including Clinton.

She was, expectedly, apoplectic.

About four years later, after her husband and I had schooled her, she admitted it was so.

She had a web site for 2nd Amendment Sisters, and openly admitted her conversion about the 19th.

I was quite proud of myself, but more importantly, proud and happy for her,

92 posted on 10/24/2010 10:36:51 AM PDT by diogenes ghost
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To: cycle of discernment
This is why it’s so important that MALES in personal r/ships take the stand—if women knew they could depend on the man in their life to ‘be there’, they’d probably be less likely to fall for the left wing crap.
I do claim your statement is patently absurd...(yes, really!) Nobody can claim with any assurance that they're going to "be there" forever. As your statement stands it appears that you don't think a woman can make any determinations on her own without a man being there to lead the way. That's pretty damned sexist if you ask me.
And as far as leading them so they don't "fall for the left wing crap" I can only say that as with children a parent can only give advice or share experience. Children choose to follow it or not. Many men can, and do, take care of the woman in their life, but they can't force the woman to follow them or act according to his conceptions and perceptions instead of their own. Free will still reigns in a relationship. You have to voluntarily follow the lead and a woman may not want to follow. Dictating to her how she is supposed to think or act leads to a lousy relationship.
I was once told that an abused woman stays in such a relationship because she liked it, expected it or was used to it. As far as the government taking over as the man in a woman's life all I can say is that victim-hood taught is victim-hood wrought. Thinking beings should be able to see through BS like that. It isn't that they don't, it's that they won't!
Either way you're making overly broad, sweeping generalizations about both men and women.
93 posted on 10/24/2010 10:46:05 AM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: diogenes ghost

As I said in my previous post, though I’ve very frustrated by the masses of auto-pilot “feel good rhetoric” female voters ( that the left harvests), there are also very essential and powerful female forces thinking the ‘right’ way today.

Palin, Noem, Angle.

We can’t arbitrarily erase half of humanity. It’s absurb....there are lots of dumb males too.

My point in asking men to step up, is to acknowledge that men are far more immune to the emotional manipulation and tend to think in starker contrasts of cause and effect—so they that MUST lead, but that also includes being strong moral examples.

We need to awaken the women that go along with the leftist view, but this requires the leverage of stable societal models too (cohesive families, committed r/ships) so the nonthinking types don’t automatically turn to a nanny state solution.

i think a better ‘slicing’ of voter viability might be property ownership. That seems to be a great equalizer and perspective-creator.

I think owning property suddenly brings to mind pretty much everything that is at stake....a skin-in-the-game point of view.


94 posted on 10/24/2010 10:53:55 AM PDT by cycle of discernment
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To: rabidralph
Women are always standing up. Why do you think there are so many women taking leadership positions and running for office this year? This is why you can't find a single elected man in Washington who is willing to stand by Sarah's side and agree with her when dems govern as idiots.

That's because the media has not figured out a way to successfully attack strong republican women yet. The media is still stunned they exist.
95 posted on 10/24/2010 10:56:51 AM PDT by Vision ("Did I not say to you that if you would believe, you would see the glory of God?" John 11:40)
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To: philman_36

“That’s pretty damned sexist if you ask me. “

So? Nature is not politically correct.

“Either way you’re making overly broad, sweeping generalizations about both men and women.”

So? We start to puzzle through to solutions by recognizing patterns, cycles and cause and effect—and honestly calling them out, harsh though it may be for some.


96 posted on 10/24/2010 10:57:08 AM PDT by cycle of discernment
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To: cycle of discernment

Judge much? Get lost.


97 posted on 10/24/2010 10:57:48 AM PDT by oldvike (I'm too drunk to taste THIS chicken)
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To: Luke21

This response would have been the perfect reply to your first reply to me. Too bad I didn’t think of it.


98 posted on 10/24/2010 11:00:33 AM PDT by csmusaret (If the Bush recession ended in June 2009, did the Obama economy begin in July 2009?)
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To: cycle of discernment
So?

99 posted on 10/24/2010 11:07:23 AM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: cycle of discernment

But I KNOW there is reason behind everything—and the point I’ve been trying to make —clumsily— is that females behave the way they do because of eons of encoding.

Protection..the more powerful the male, famous, rich..even famous by notoriety— it all equates to that insistent voice inside the female that rings the bell..”He can protect me and my offspring!”

Don’t blame women for that..blame the Creator! It’s part of the machinery of the system.


The Creator did not make a mistake in planting in women’s hearts to seek out successful men for husbands. What constitutes success to the Creator versus what constitutes success in this warped, amoral society liberals have socially engineered, are two very different things.

Likewise, what the Creator programed into men to look for a good and honorable woman to raise his children to be successful and to be his partner forging through life and his closest and protective friend for safety and healing at home, has been demolished by feminists as stupid and sexist.

In humanist society everything that is good and honorable about mankind is named evil and hate. Everything that is oppressive, evil and hateful is named free, attractive and it is chosen to be successful by the elite.

White Americans are a group of native people who were specifically targeted by the elite for cultural cleansing. Like any native people targeted by rulers who hate them and look down on them, many of us have not weathered the liberal elite’s successful attack upon us well. Many are totally lost and w/o our unique cultural expressions of beauty, and without our idenity, honor, inspiration and anchor in life. What made America “exceptional” was the culture that grew up out of the constitition and this memory has been debased by the elite and now lost to many in a whole generation of Americans-Americans.

In my opinion, this is why we have so much divorce, depression and self destruction in our people now. We are looking like the Indians looked after the White elite of that day got finished “improving” them. The KGB called it a program of demoralizing the Americans.


100 posted on 10/24/2010 11:12:18 AM PDT by SaraJohnson
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