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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Just how is it that he hid his agenda? Did the writer not check out his voting record?

Should there be any doubt now, perhaps a quick comparison between the ideas of Thomas Jefferson on debt and deficits versus those of Obama might clue some of these folks in to his real agenda.

"To preserve [the] independence [of the people,] we must not let our rulers load us with perpetual debt. We must make our election between economy and liberty, or profusion and servitude. If we run into such debts as that we must be taxed in our meat and in our drink, in our necessaries and our comforts, in our labors and our amusements, for our callings and our creeds, as the people of England are, our people, like them, must come to labor sixteen hours in the twenty-four, give the earnings of fifteen of these to the government for their debts and daily expenses, and the sixteenth being insufficient to afford us bread, we must live, as they now do, on oatmeal and potatoes, have no time to think, no means of calling the mismanagers to account, but be glad to obtain subsistence by hiring ourselves to rivet their chains on the necks of our fellow-sufferers." --Thomas Jefferson to Samuel Kercheval, 1816. ME 15:39

"I deem [this one of] the essential principles of our government and consequently [one] which ought to shape its administration:... The honest payment of our debts and sacred preservation of the public faith." --Thomas Jefferson: 1st Inaugural, 1801. ME 3:322

"I sincerely believe... that the principle of spending money to be paid by posterity under the name of funding is but swindling futurity on a large scale." --Thomas Jefferson to John Taylor, 1816. ME 15:23

"[With the decline of society] begins, indeed, the bellum omnium in omnia [war of all against all], which some philosophers observing to be so general in this world, have mistaken it for the natural, instead of the abusive state of man. And the fore horse of this frightful team is public debt. Taxation follows that, and in its train wretchedness and oppression." --Thomas Jefferson to Samuel Kercheval, 1816. ME 15:40

In his own First Inaugural, Jefferson listed the principles by which his Administration would be guided. He concluded by advising future generations that should we wander away from them, we should return to them as the only path which "leads to peace, liberty, and safety."

Obama supporters might take note.

50 posted on 10/23/2010 7:06:29 PM PDT by loveliberty2
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To: loveliberty2

Zero’s agenda wasn’t as obvious as it needed to be for the truly dense, the plantation-dwellers and the elite because there’s never been a bill before him to vote on that is as egregiously far left as the ones he, Pelosi and Reid have cooked up.

To those dupes, American Idol was much more important until they lost their jobs, their investments and their homes. Not even the plantation-dwellers ‘got theirs’, lol.


93 posted on 10/25/2010 12:18:34 AM PDT by chilltherats (First, kill all the lawyers (now that they ARE the tyrants).......)
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