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To: smoothsailing
that's a canard...

immigration has no correlation to an increase in conservatism here, in fact quite the opposite

the early 20th century urban Democrat machines were founded on the immigrant waves that clustered in the urban Northeast and in Midwest mining and manufacturing areas which in turn along with poor rural whites elsewhere and blacks gave us FDR...without those waves FDR and what he destroyed here would have been a tough sell

and now the latino and third world waves we deal with today vote overwhelmingly Democrat

the only exceptions being those fleeing Collectivism and Totalitarians...and they are the first to see that what is happening here now is just how it started from whence they fled

unfortunately these groups are a tiny percentage of the immigrant wave that has forever changed demographics here since the early 1980s

PJ is funny, means well but like most NeoCons is hopelessly naive and somewhat PC

Immigration now is a conflict of race and culture as much as anything and I see no quick fix and I sure don't see them going conservative no matter how much we pander.

13 posted on 10/23/2010 11:09:45 AM PDT by wardaddy (the redress over anything minority is a cancer in our country...stage 4)
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To: wardaddy
that's a canard...

Definition of CANARD 1a : a false or unfounded report or story; especially : a fabricated report b : a groundless rumor or belief

Canard is a pretty strong word to be throwing around, don't you think? Certainly nothing I've posted to you merits it's use.

20 posted on 10/23/2010 11:51:44 AM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: wardaddy

Your are correct. Talk to the immigrants from Eastern Europe and they don’t like the way this country is going. Reminds them of the commies they lived under.


23 posted on 10/23/2010 11:56:11 AM PDT by Fledermaus (WAKE UP! Get rid of the LIBS in both parties. If not us, who? If not now, when?)
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To: wardaddy

I wonder is imbecilic PJ aware of this:

September 21, 2010 12:00 A.M.

Justice Dept. Shrugs About Potential GI Voter Disfranchisement
Thanks to some states’ illegal lagging, soldiers abroad may lose their vote.

Imagine if five states announced that they lacked the money and manpower to ship ballots to precincts in predominantly black rural counties before the fall federal election. The Justice Department appropriately would shift into fifth gear to assure that those Americans could vote on November 2. Enforcement lawsuits would fly like pigeons fleeing a breezy schoolyard.

Now, convert those rural blacks into American GIs serving abroad. Delaware, Massachusetts, New York, Rhode Island, and Washington State are dragging their feet on the urgent task of delivering absentee ballots to overseas service members. The response at Justice’s Voting Rights Division in Washington, D.C., echoes a Louis Armstrong tune: “It’s sleepy time down South.”

Saturday, September 18, marked 45 days before the election. According to the Military and Overseas Voter Empowerment Act (MOVE Act), that was the deadline by which states had to have sent unmarked ballots overseas. This period should have allowed ballots to reach GIs, from bases in Germany to trenches in Afghanistan, in time for them to be returned by election night.

However, these five states have received waivers from the MOVE Act, essentially giving them extensions on their homework. Primary elections on Tuesday, September 14, gave four of those states (Delaware, New York, Massachusetts, and Rhode Island), along with Wisconsin, only four days to determine party nominees, print ballots, and send them off. Rather than employ this cramming-for-finals approach, election officials in these states should have scheduled primaries early enough to avoid this headache. Meanwhile, Alaska, Colorado, Hawaii, Maryland, Washington, D.C., and the U.S. Virgin Islands also previously indicated an inability to adhere to last Saturday’s deadline.

Even worse, some of the waivers went to states that never demonstrated that they were “unable” to obey the law. This is the only standard for approving waivers.

As Sen. John Cornyn (R., Texas) reminded Justice in a July 28 letter:

There are only three types of “undue hardship” that are an adequate excuse for a state to seek a waiver: (i) The State’s primary election date prohibits the State from complying; (ii) The State has suffered a delay in generating ballots due to a legal contest; or (iii) The State Constitution prohibits the State from complying. If none of these situations exists, then the state may not apply for a waiver, and the federal government may not grant one.

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Missed deadlines and other administrative snafus reportedly disfranchised some 17,000 military voters in 2008. These ballots might have tipped close elections, such as Minnesota’s skin-tight contest that eventually made Democrat comedian Al Franken a U.S. senator.

America’s uniformed men and women dodge — and sometimes absorb — bullets so that the rest of us can debate peacefully about taxes and mosques. They should expect to have a voice in choosing the leaders who might deploy them into combat — or suddenly call them home.

President Obama’s Justice Department should wake up, sue negligent states, and ensure that every military vote counts on election night.

http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/246960/justice-dept-shrugs-about-potential-gi-voter-disfranchisement-deroy-murdock

Those votes ONLY matter when they are for Demoncrats.

Other than that, other votes should NOT be counted.


28 posted on 10/23/2010 12:09:47 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: wardaddy
Your Statement: "Immigration now is a conflict of race and culture as much as anything and I see no quick fix and I sure don't see them going conservative no matter how much we pander."

Response: Agreed.

29 posted on 10/23/2010 12:12:13 PM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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