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Funny thing is, I have often defended the Pope or the Catholic Church here - when their pronouncements or actions are in line with the the New Testament.

But I have noticed certain Catholics on this board, where out of simple arrogance or a bloated sense of victimization I can not be sure, will defend the actions of the Catholic Church no matter what. Even well past the point of absurdity.

That is because, for these people, truth is defined by “the group”. For those like myself, truth is defined by “principle”.

In this situation, the principle is that you don’t kiss and thereby honor or hold in esteem a body of teaching that will take people straight to eternal hell.

1) The Koran gives Muslims the right to judge Christians and kill them with Jihad," he said. "It gives orders to impose religion with force, with the sword. For this reason, Muslims don't recognise the freedom of religion among themselves or others." Have you any comment on that?

2) But I have noticed certain protestants on this forum who attack, insult, or defame the Church always, regardless of the facts. As for your claim ... Nobody on this forum has shown greater interest in purifying the Church than the Catholics themselves. Your claim is false.

3) "In this situation, the principle is that you don’t" insult the very people you're persuading to improve their behaviour.