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To: GladesGuru
I understand. I was just pointing out that when one is elected to Congress, one is expected to take an oath to defend the Constitution. There isn't anything in the Constitution permitting the overthrow of the government.

You're right about the Declaration of Independence, but a Congressman takes an oath to defend the Constitution, not the Declaration. Overthrowing a government is an extraconstitutional act.

The signers of the Declaration recognized that what they were doing was illegal under British law, that they were violating/renouncing any prior oaths to Britain's constitution that they may have made, and that they would be hung as traitors if they were unsuccessful.

48 posted on 10/21/2010 9:39:19 PM PDT by Walts Ice Pick
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To: Walts Ice Pick

“they would be hung as traitors if they were unsuccessful.”

“We must all hang together, or assuredly we shall all hang separately.”
Benjamin Franklin
At the signing of the Declaration of Independence


51 posted on 10/21/2010 9:53:07 PM PDT by MestaMachine (Only the sane ask why. The insane simply are.)
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To: Walts Ice Pick

Barak Hussein and many Democraps would happily kill the TEA Party people if they could. Arguably, little has changed since the revolutionary War. Surely, the issues and the nature of man have not changed.

I, and most of both the TEA Party and the FR community, are too old to be in the prime of health which is a prereq for combat. I am also appalled at the financial loss and probable loss of American society if things get to that stage.

However, a few thoughts keep coming back to me. The Constitution IS worth fighting for. Churchill said it best:
“You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than live as slaves.”

Lastly, Paul Johnson was correct when he said that if the American experiment in self government failed, that which would come after would be unspeakably worse.

“Unspeakable” is the rude beast slouching through the White House as I write this.


54 posted on 10/21/2010 10:01:43 PM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principles,)
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To: Walts Ice Pick
...they were violating/renouncing any prior oaths to Britain's constitution...

You're dumb as dirt as well!


Keeping it simple for you from a simple site...The British Constitution
The British Constitution is unwritten in one single document, unlike the constitution in America or the proposed European Constitution, and as such, is referred to as an uncodified constitution in the sense that there is no single document that can be classed as Britain's constitution.
Snip...The British Constitution comes from a variety of sources. The main ones are:
Statutes such as the Magna Carta of 1215 and the Act of Settlement of 1701.
Laws and Customs of Parliament; political conventions Case law; constitutional matters decided in a court of law Constitutional experts who have written on the subject such as Walter Bagehot and A.V Dicey.

61 posted on 10/21/2010 10:35:17 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Walts Ice Pick

overthrow by Fabian subterfuge is just as much an overthrow as by violent action...but more seditious, treasonous, and vile.


65 posted on 10/21/2010 11:55:33 PM PDT by castlebrew (Gun control means hitting where you're aiming!)
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To: Walts Ice Pick
There isn't anything in the Constitution permitting the overthrow of the government.

Sure there is, right here -

and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity.

Should our Liberties become unsecured, the People have a Right to rectify the situation by whatever means WE deem necessary.

78 posted on 10/22/2010 5:01:21 AM PDT by MamaTexan (I am a Person as created by the Law of Nature, not a person as created by the laws of Man)
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