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Rise of the Bitter Clingers - Understanding the Tea Party's appeal
Reason ^ | October 20, 2010 | David Harsanyi

Posted on 10/20/2010 11:21:30 AM PDT by neverdem

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To: MrB
Have you seen Ben Stein's "EXPELLED" yet?

If not, treat yourself. I just saw it this week.

21 posted on 10/20/2010 1:03:58 PM PDT by magslinger ('This is a United States Marine Corps FA-18 fighter. Send 'em up, I'll wait!')
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To: neverdem

Especially if senior officers start playing with their privates.


22 posted on 10/20/2010 1:06:54 PM PDT by magslinger ('This is a United States Marine Corps FA-18 fighter. Send 'em up, I'll wait!')
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To: magslinger

Saw it in the theater however long ago that was.


23 posted on 10/20/2010 1:07:06 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: MrB

I rarely go to theaters, the last two movies I saw in a theater were “An American Carol” and “Passion of the Christ”. My wife got me the Stein DVD at the local Bible store.


24 posted on 10/20/2010 1:18:11 PM PDT by magslinger ('This is a United States Marine Corps FA-18 fighter. Send 'em up, I'll wait!')
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To: neverdem
The left is bereft of issues that can help them win the upcoming election so they hope to use 'wedge' issues, such as homosexual behavior, to alienate voters that might otherwise vote Republican.

I contend that a conservative candidate cannot ignore or abandon their stand on these issues , i.e. gay marriage/gays in the military, abortion-on-demand, etc. but they should not make them a focal point of their campaign (none have) and when the leftist opposition tries, as they will, to change the subject from the bad economy and Obama's disaster of a presidency to whether you support 'gay rights' or 'a woman's right to chose' the conservative candidate should simply affirm that their position and quickly ask their opponent why they won't answer questions about the economy, ObamaCare, etc. Simple political strategy to keep the opponent on defense and when he tries to put you on offense, do a Jujutsu move on him/her.

Rand Paul did this when his opponent, doctrinaire liberal Democrat Jack Conway, apparently tried to drag Paul's religious faith into question. Paul never responded to the allegation (something that sounded like a fraternity initiation) but went into full attack mode by harshly criticizing Conway for questioning Paul's religious faith. He refused to shake Conway's hand after the debate and very effectively turned Conway's attempt to put Rand Paul on defense into a rout that has Conway on defense - and losing.

Voters may be easily distracted sometimes but contrary to what liberals believe, they are not stupid. They can see a distraction when it's as blatant as the one Jack Conway has tried to fool them with. That's politics as as usual and a fed-up electorate won't fall for it, this election.

25 posted on 10/20/2010 1:37:00 PM PDT by Jim Scott (Cautious optimist)
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To: Old Teufel Hunden
Focus like a laser on jobs, economy, budget deficit, national debt etc...

Boehner-speak. His haircut alone tells you how many shanks he's going to stick in the Tea Party people's backs after he becomes Speaker. His two-thousand-dollar suit seals the deal.

Or maybe you don't like "real Americans", either, like the rest of the cultural-liberal materialist-instrumentalist Straussian "economic conservative" cynics who know how to count.

26 posted on 10/21/2010 3:11:54 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: PetroniusMaximus
Take the morality component out of the Tea Party and it will die.

Quod erat demonstrandum.

Reminiscent of Theodore White's cynical smearing of conservatives as "emotional" "primitives" throughout his Making of the President books.

27 posted on 10/21/2010 3:14:33 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: neverdem
I agree with social conservatives on most issues, but it's not the time to divide us. That's what the left is hoping for.

I read that as "Shut up and stick with the Boehner/RNC message."

Convince me I'm wrong, and that you didn't mean that.

28 posted on 10/21/2010 3:18:58 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: usurper
So when someone asks you if it is a lifestyle choice ask yourself if you could choose it.

Most gays now have got the message left for them at the bathhouse desk by Lambda Legal, which is the "essentialist" message Lambda's been pushing for 30 years. Gay = Negro, you see. "I am ..... a Man! ...." and all that.

But a lot of gays haven't read their messages yet, and there's still a lot of "fluid sexuality"/"sexual continuum" garbage out there, mostly in the literary (i.e. gay-porn) community, and among pederasts who are busy replenishing gay ranks by "turning" tweenaged and teenaged boys.

They put great store by getting to boys before the girls do, since boys tend to be sexualized by their first experiences. So while pederasts aren't psychologically similar to pedophiles per se, nevertheless there's a strong incentive among pederasts to seek out adolescents and "intercept" them before they have their first heterosexual experiences.

Of course, talking about this aspect of homosexuality -- "where do gays come from?" -- is absolutely anathema to the gay legal and political-propaganda community.

And therefore to the captive MSM as well, from which I suspect large numbers of non-"gay-friendly" journalists have been quietly expelled over the last 40 years, as witness the happy reflection by a New York Times editor that as many as 3/4's of his colleagues editing Page One of the NYT are sexual deviants like himself.

29 posted on 10/21/2010 3:33:47 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: PetroniusMaximus
"Take the morality component out of the Tea Party and it will die."

I'm not saying that we take the morality component out of the tea party movement. When asked about specific issues concering morality, of course you answer them. However, the focus of the debates needs to be about the economy, jobs, national debt and budget deficit. If you put the focus of the debates on abortion or gay rights, the conservatives are going to be playing right into the hands of these leftist that don't want to face up to the votes they have taken.
30 posted on 10/21/2010 4:59:57 AM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: lentulusgracchus

Wow, you sure do make a lot of assumptions. So, how many points do you think O’Donnell scored by calling out the bearded marxist on the separation of church and state? Then turning around and not knowing what the 14th and 16th amendments were? Yeah, that really advanced the debate.

If she would stick to the fact that the bearded marxist would be an automatic vote for Harry Reid in the Senate and focus on the fact that he sat at the feet of a college professor who was an avowed socialist, she would score points. She’s losing because of all of these ancillary issues, not the true issue of this election.

Look, in a debate where you have one minute to make your point, you can’t make the point about the first amendment protecting churches from government intrusion, not the other way around. You can’t go into detail about the wall of separation saying comes from Jefferson’s letter to the Danbury Batptist association and not the first amendment. All of that stuff is complex and needs time to break down to the people. What is not complex is that people are hurting and need jobs and can’t pay the rent. And it’s all because of the socialistic policies of Barrack Obama and tie your opponent to that. That’s easy to break down in a minute. Right now, people do not care about the social issues. This race is turning on the economy. If you as a candidate don’t see that, then you are going to lose. The goal is to win the election, not a Lincoln/Douglas debate.

As for Boehner, you are making an awful lot of assumptions. I’m willing to give him a chance. With Pence, Cantor, Ryan and others as his deputies I think they can start trimming the fat from these bloated budgets.


31 posted on 10/21/2010 5:15:04 AM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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32 posted on 10/21/2010 9:19:57 AM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: neverdem

Thanks for the ping.


33 posted on 10/21/2010 9:33:37 AM PDT by GOPJ ('Power abdicates only under the stress of counter-power." Martin Buber / Teanami's coming...)
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To: neverdem

For a laugh go to http://www.davidharsanyi.com/ and take a good look at Obama’s empty desk - reflecting his empty head... funny stuff.


34 posted on 10/21/2010 9:47:57 AM PDT by GOPJ ('Power abdicates only under the stress of counter-power." Martin Buber / Teanami's coming...)
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To: lentulusgracchus
I read that as "Shut up and stick with the Boehner/RNC message."

Convince me I'm wrong, and that you didn't mean that.

Did you bother to read what I wrote in comment# 1? The time for the culture war is when we have peace and prosperity, IMHO. The nominees who came from the Tea Party movement don't have much skill at debating the fine points of it. They are mostly rough around the edges.

The left wants to put us in the poor house with their economic nonsense, surrender overseas and divide their opposition. You want to take their bait?

By and large, the nominees who came from the Tea Party movement are where they are because they spoke economic common sense. They don't have the debating skill of Bill Buckley. The left is drooling to paint them as racist, sexist, homophobic imperialists.

35 posted on 10/21/2010 10:17:19 AM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: neverdem
Do I wish that Colorado senatorial candidate Ken Buck hadn't declared that being gay is a choice (as if there were something wrong with choosing to be gay)? Yes. Do I wish he hadn't followed up by comparing a gay genetic predisposition to alcoholism? I do. If you were brainy enough to watch Meet the Press instead of wasting time in church last Sunday, no doubt you cringed at that primitive lunacy.
Tolerance fail on Harsayani's part. He's an anti-Christian bigot.
36 posted on 10/21/2010 10:32:37 AM PDT by rmlew (You want change? Vote for the most conservative electable in your state or district.)
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