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To: a fool in paradise
The “Big Bang” is based upon actual evidence. Creationism is based upon the interpretation of revealed wisdom.

Teaching that the evidence suggest the universe is expanding from an initial point of creation is compatible with the evidence and is science.

Teaching that the Earth is only a few thousand years old and that all species were created nearly simultaneously is a religious belief without evidence and is not science.

Do you think that Mormons teaching the “history” of Semitic people in the Americas in Utah public schools would be acceptable under the 1st Amendment?

37 posted on 10/20/2010 11:28:07 AM PDT by allmendream (Income is EARNED not distributed. So how could it be re-distributed?)
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To: allmendream

“See there you go again...” < /reagan >

YOU are the one setting the argument as “creationism” being only a few thousand years old for all religious believers.

EVERYONE Christian, Jewish, Agnostic, Atheist, Scientologist, Buddhist has a creation belief. THAT is “creationism”.

if you want to use it as a pejorative and say that “creationism is a belief that a god or many gods created everything” that still does NOT give you the right to insist that everyone start that clock at 6,000 years.

That is the fallacy of this debate. Because “some religious believers” say “6,000 years” EVERYONE who believes in a God and believe that their God created the universe and life MUST believe THAT view of “creationist story” is a false argument.

There are some who see a “clockmaker view” of the universe, that the observed scientific principles had been put into motion by the creator.

To say ABSOLUTELY that there was no creator is a religious litimus test that makes ATHEISM the state religion. And that is outright academic bias.

We may “agree to disagree” as a nation but we cannot demand that everyone “forgo their religious beliefs to submit to the secular humanist atheists’ view”. That is what the muslim theocracy also demands. You may hold a different opinion as long as you never tell anyone that opinion.

Thus “freedom of speech” and “freedom of religion” become meaningless.


38 posted on 10/20/2010 11:38:40 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (The establishment clause isn't just against my OWN government establishing state religion in America)
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To: allmendream
The “Big Bang” is based upon actual evidence.

No it's not.
It's an interpetration of the apparent evidence.
Not as clear cut as saying the sun rose this morning, and we all saw it. That is a fact. But not science.

The big bang theory is relatively recent, and controversy and contradictions and revisions have been a constant companion to its "development." Contradictions and unexplained phenomena abound.

41 posted on 10/20/2010 11:48:25 AM PDT by Publius6961 ("In 1964 the War on Poverty Began --- Poverty won.")
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To: allmendream
The “Big Bang” is based upon actual evidence.

It's based on theory.  Scientific theory.  There is no evidence to suggest that the universe begun with a bang, big or small.

It's like arguing that man is totally responsible for the melting of the icecaps.  Where's the evidence?

80 posted on 10/20/2010 8:00:03 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (In 2012: The Rookie and The Wookie get booted from the White House.)
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