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U.S. Government Does Not Have ‘Effective Control’ of 1,081 Miles of the U.S.-Mexico Border,
CNSNews ^ | October 19, 2010 | Edwin Mora

Posted on 10/19/2010 11:08:05 AM PDT by jazusamo

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Sounds like Bersin just wants to open the border.
1 posted on 10/19/2010 11:08:09 AM PDT by jazusamo
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To: jazusamo
Please bump the Freepathon and donate or become a monthly donor!

2 posted on 10/19/2010 11:14:24 AM PDT by jazusamo (His [Obama's] political base---the young, the left and the thoughtless: Thomas Sowell)
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I went hunting with some damn good hunters this weekend (I wasn’t one of them =)). We covered a lot of high desert terrain in short time periods and I bet we could do a pretty good job of controlling the border using similar techniques.


3 posted on 10/19/2010 11:16:28 AM PDT by Dexter Morgan (Everyone hides who they are.)
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I agree combine that with coordination of a few air bases and you could land troops if needed or call down air support. Border guarding isn’t rocket science its just a matter of political will and proper use of resources.


4 posted on 10/19/2010 11:19:36 AM PDT by utherdoul
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To: jazusamo

After watching the TV program ‘Border Wars’ I am disgusted with our efforts.

The officers work their butts off and then the illegals are given a bus ride back to the border. A few are ‘forbidden’ from coming into the US for 1 year.

And the filth they leave in the desert..
The officers should make the illegals clean up the nearest mess before they are carted off.


5 posted on 10/19/2010 11:23:20 AM PDT by Vinnie (You're Nobody 'Til Somebody Jihads You)
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To: jazusamo

The failure to control the border is willful. The rationale of those presently in office being drug money and votes for Democrats.


6 posted on 10/19/2010 11:26:36 AM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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Agreed. This is treason IMO. Plain and simple.


7 posted on 10/19/2010 11:27:29 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (III, Alarm and Muster)
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“The U.S. government does not have “effective control” of 1,081miles of the 1,954-mile-long U.S.-Mexico border, according to U.S. Customs and Border Protection, the division of the Department of Homeland Security responsible for securing the border.”

Paging the Stasi — please pick up the red courtesy phone.

I was there in 1971 and saw for myself. Even passed through through Checkpoint Charlie to “the other side” in military uniform, and walked around East Berlin, courtesy of the U.S. Army.

At least _they_ knew how to maintain and patrol a border.

If they could do it there, we can do it here.


8 posted on 10/19/2010 11:27:38 AM PDT by Grumplestiltskin (I may look new, but it's only deja vu!)
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS
The failure to control the border is willful.

Agreed, and it's criminal the powers that be tie the hands of the border patrol and thereby put their lives at risk.

9 posted on 10/19/2010 11:32:29 AM PDT by jazusamo (His [Obama's] political base---the young, the left and the thoughtless: Thomas Sowell)
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To: utherdoul
or call down air support.

A-10 Warthogs would do just fine.

10 posted on 10/19/2010 11:34:18 AM PDT by jazusamo (His [Obama's] political base---the young, the left and the thoughtless: Thomas Sowell)
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The only news here is how little DHS is doing about it.


11 posted on 10/19/2010 11:37:06 AM PDT by Spok (Free Range Republican)
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To: jazusamo

borders?
we have orders?


12 posted on 10/19/2010 11:37:36 AM PDT by vanilla swirl (We are the Patrick Henry we have been waiting for!)
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borders? we have borders?


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

13 posted on 10/19/2010 11:54:11 AM PDT by The Comedian (Don't run. You'll just die tired.)
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To: Spok

Is anyone really surprised by this? It’ll all lead to the amnesty program that the Obammy administration wants. Janet and her partners are pushing it. What better way to ensure Democratic domination of the House and Senate with all the future “citizens”. Completely sickening how our own government undermines our job on a daily basis.


14 posted on 10/19/2010 12:03:43 PM PDT by ssapro (SSAPRO/ EXBP)
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Ping!


15 posted on 10/19/2010 1:45:06 PM PDT by HiJinx (I can see November from my front porch - and Mexico from the back.)
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Ping!

If you want on, or off this S. Texas/Mexico ping list, please FReepMail me.


16 posted on 10/19/2010 5:13:28 PM PDT by SwinneySwitch (Nemo me impune lacessit)
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Muchas gracias por el ping.

The border hasn’t been a border since Blackjack Pershing.
The Mexicans and Texicans got along just fine.
Then the libs set up programs to feed, house, clothe and educate aliens and the swarms began to come across the border. Then it began to cost us a bunch of money. The feds did nothing. Now we have a gang of ruthless narcogang types that make al queda look tame and again the feds do nothing. All the while, they are working to disarm law abiding citizens and sue Arizona for trying to get the feds to actually protect our country.

Thanks much there demonrat party and your media for bringing us this national nightmare.


17 posted on 10/19/2010 7:55:43 PM PDT by Texas resident (Outlaw fisherman)
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"Effective Control?"

LOL. There is no border. There is a 100-mile wide "zona de tolerancia" Think of it as the border area between Pakistan and Afghanistan, where tribal families operate with impunity on either side of the "border."

There are dirty cops and politicians on both sides, and in many cases they are relatives. Not much action on this from either party.

18 posted on 10/19/2010 11:38:49 PM PDT by Kenny Bunk (Revive The Poll Tax and Literacy Requirement for voter registration.)
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The United States has strange priorities along the border with Mexico
By Jonathan Gurwitz
San Antonio Express-News
Oct. 18, 2010
http://www.star-telegram.com/2010/10/18/2556234/gurwitz-the-united-states-has.html

Imagine for a moment that the New York State Police are warning American
boaters to steer clear of the Canadian side of Lake Ontario because they
might fall victim to pirates.

Imagine that violent gangs armed with military weaponry created a no man’s
land along a portion of the border shared by the United States and Canada
that challenged the sovereignty of both nations.

Would this for a moment be tolerable? Would the president of the United
States or the leaders of Congress simply treat it as a regrettable yet
acceptable border problem? Of course not. Yet residents of South Texas are
expected to endure precisely this situation on the U.S.-Mexican border.

In May, the Texas Department of Public Safety warned boaters on Falcon Lake,
which straddles the border, to stay on the U.S. side after a number of armed
robberies. The perpetrators, the statement said, were believed to be
“members of a drug trafficking organization or members of an enforcer group
... who are heavily armed and using AK-47s or AR-15 rifles.”

On Sept. 30, these gangs apparently claimed their first American victim on
Falcon Lake. According to Tiffany Hartley, several boats of gunmen ambushed
her and her husband, David, as they rode their Jet Skis. David Hartley was
shot in the head and is presumed dead.

More than two weeks later and with threats of violence hampering search
efforts, his body had not been recovered. The lead Mexican investigator in
the case was murdered last week, his severed head placed in a suitcase left
outside a military base.

This isn’t Iraq at the height of the al Qaeda insurgency, Afghanistan under
the Taliban or the ungovernable tribal areas of Pakistan. It is Mexico, a
stone’s throw from the United States.

During the first half of 2010, the Houston Chronicle reported, 48 U.S.
citizens were killed in Mexico, including an employee of the U.S. Consulate
in Ciudad Juarez and her husband. That number pales in comparison with the
more than 28,000 Mexican citizens who have lost their lives since President
Felipe Calderon began to fight back against the cartels in 2006.

Taken together, however, the escalating violence should serve as an ominous
indicator of just how lethally serious the border security problem is. But
how seriously is the U.S. government taking that problem?
Two answers come from the Government Accountability Office, the
investigative arm of Congress.

In a draft report released this month, the GAO found that environmental laws
are hampering the Border Patrol’s ability to operate on government land
along the U.S.-Mexico border. Patrol agents-in-charge for 17 of the 26
Border Patrol stations on the Southwest border said they had experienced
“delays and restrictions in patrolling and monitoring federal lands because
of various land management laws.”

As an example, off-road vehicles used to patrol and pursue suspects on
federal lands may leave tire tracks that disrupt the natural flow of water.
“The volume of undocumented aliens crossing federal lands can overwhelm the
law enforcement and resource protection efforts,” the report observes. But
illegal immigrants and drug smugglers are able to flout the environmental
laws that restrict the Border Patrol.

Another GAO report released in July found that two years into the three-year
Merida Initiative to assist Mexico’s law enforcement and judicial agencies,
the U.S. government had disbursed less than 10 percent of the $1.3 billion
appropriated for the program.

Last month, the Obama administration asked Congress to impound $26 million
that was to be released because the Mexican government hasn’t made enough
progress in addressing human rights concerns in its battle with the drug
cartels.

The cartels are as violent and brutal as any terrorist organization. The
Calderon government is fighting against them to uphold law and order.

The U.S. government, to the extent that it is engaged in this conflict, is
as concerned about the Huachuca water umbel — an endangered plant — and
the transparency of Mexico’s military justice system as it is about
maintaining stability in a nation of 110 million people that shares a
2,000-mile border with the United States.

How many more U.S. and Mexican citizens must die before the United States
gets its priorities straight?

Jonathan Gurwitz writes for the San Antonio Express-News.
jgurwitz@express-news.net


19 posted on 10/20/2010 8:46:04 AM PDT by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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How many more U.S. and Mexican citizens must die before the United States gets its priorities straight?

But don't you see? That doesn't matter. The fact is, these people deserved to die because they ignored clear warnings about venturing into recreational waters that the federal government can't, or won't, protect. That, at least, is the contention of a fair number of Mexican apologists here on FR who believe we are at fault. It's the "Hinky" set, doncha know...

20 posted on 10/20/2010 9:15:47 AM PDT by bcsco (Karl Rove, from Magnificent Bastard to Malignant Bastard in one day...)
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