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Election 2010: Nevada Senate - Angle Hits 50%
Rasmussen Reports ^ | 10/18/10

Posted on 10/18/2010 9:02:53 AM PDT by MissesBush

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To: greyfoxx39
I am former LDS and am quite aware of the behind the scenes influence that is directed at members on matters such as elections.

I'm currently LDS and am perplexed by this claim because it's totally outside of my experience. I've never been pressured by anyone to vote for any particular candidate ever, certainly not for Mitt Romney in the 08 primary or any other.

Yes, the LDS Church will ocassionally take stands on ballot iniatives with a moral component like Prop. 8 to make a constitutional amendment banning gay marriage. But even on the current ballot measure to legalize marijuana here, Prop 19, that I'm aware of the LDS Church has issued no opinion one way or another as to how LDS members should vote. Maybe they yet will before the election, but so far no one has said a word about it in church. And as I said never once have I heard anyone say a word about how to vote for any particular candidate.

If someone did in your experience, my sense is it was their own personal opinion and their own little crusade. The church regularly issues statements in the run up to elections that church buildings nor church meetings are to be used for any political candidate or cause or for any campaign purpose.

81 posted on 10/18/2010 2:33:12 PM PDT by MissesBush (Stay angry--right through November)
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To: MissesBush; greyfoxx39

Greyfox - your experience is similar to mine.

They would never announce from the pulpit, but Mormons know that they are expected to vote for Mormons if there is a chance to choose. And the Mormon grapevine is especially capable of getting the word out who to vote for. It is one of the benefits of Mormonism.


82 posted on 10/18/2010 2:54:31 PM PDT by colorcountry ("The power of facts is much greater than the power of argument.")
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To: colorcountry
but Mormons know that they are expected to vote for Mormons if there is a chance to choose

Well count me as a Mormon who doesn't know that nor have been told that--nor do I know anyone who's LDS who has experienced this. As you 2 are part of the little anti-Mormon contingent on FR, I am taking you both with a huge grain of salt knowing what your agenda is in making these claims. By the way, unless something is stated from the pulpit, how would we possibly know this? Telepathy?

83 posted on 10/18/2010 2:58:27 PM PDT by MissesBush (Stay angry--right through November)
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Fox News showed the early voters standing in the Nevada lines yesterday. Very heavy turn-out and participation. And they all had a certain look about them—at first I could not put my finger on it, then it hit me—they remind me of all the internally seething Tea Party people I elbow with at every rally and protest I go to. They appeared to be crawling over the proverbial broken glass to be there. I just know how they are voting. We ARE going to win Nevada.


84 posted on 10/18/2010 3:08:11 PM PDT by NOBO2
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To: MissesBush; greyfoxx39

Relief Society?

Oh yes, Greyfoxx and I are eeeviiillllll.


85 posted on 10/18/2010 3:18:01 PM PDT by colorcountry ("The power of facts is much greater than the power of argument.")
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To: colorcountry

I never said you are evil. I just said you’re wrong. And you have to be or have been Mormon to know about Relief Society?


86 posted on 10/18/2010 3:22:03 PM PDT by MissesBush (Stay angry--right through November)
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To: MissesBush
There is an anti-MormonISM contingency at FR, not an anti-Mormon contingency. I'm one of the anti-MormonISM group who posts the quotes from your leadership, right from your religion's source materials. But if Mormons like you continue to behave in such a mean, deceitful, and nasty way perhaps we ought to start one so the negative representatives of the Mormon people can be identified as 'an example of what Mormonism does to people'. Would that make you happy, Missy?
87 posted on 10/18/2010 3:32:51 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: MHGinTN
I think it's a riot listening to you accuse others of meanness and deceit with the utterly unChristian way in which your little group comports itself by bashing other religions, particularly one that has so many political conservatives among its adherents, and spewing falsehoods and untruths to further an agenda that really has very little to do with what Free Republic is all about. Michael Moore uses your same tactics--out of context quotes, historical revisionsim, half-truths and latching onto anything seemingly imperfect in his opponents. You are guilty of all the things you accuse Mormonism of being. Frankly, I've never heard anyone other than you call Mormons "mean." As for your silly school yard threats, don't waste your time. I'm not intimidated by such, nor will I be silenced by them which is your real hope, and frankly in trying to display me as an example of what Mormonism does to people, you'll only be exposing what your own fananticism has done to you, particularly since there was nothing mean about what I had to say here about my experience being different from what was claimed by another person. The way you go on the attack at my merely stating my point of view in fact gives validity to how I phrased your agenda---anti-Mormon. Anyway, waste your time "exposing" me on Free Republic. Got news. No one cares. Have a nice life. I have nothing further to say to you. And by the way, I'm a man.

P.S. The word is "contingent," not contingency.

88 posted on 10/18/2010 4:06:06 PM PDT by MissesBush (Stay angry--right through November)
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To: MissesBush
"spewing falsehoods and untruths to further an agenda"
Why don't you post a few examples? Or do I have to post a few direct quotes from your religion's leaderhip which expose the heresies at the heart of Mormonism so readers have the facts instead of hateful innuendo from you as an example of 'a good Mormon'? Is posting the actual quotes from your religion's founders now considered spewing falsehoods and untruths? Hmmm, mormonism on parade; here's a few of the fatcs about Momronism beliefs which are called untruths by the mean members seeking to squelch opposition to their peculiar religion:

----"We were begotten by our Father in Heaven; the person of our Father in Heaven was begotten on a previous heavenly world by His Father; and again, He was begotten by a still more ancient Father; and so on, from generation to generation, ... we wonder in our minds, how far back the genealogy extends, and how the first world was formed, and the first father was begotten" (Orson Pratt, The Seer, p.132).

"Some people are troubled over the statements of the Prophet Joseph Smith.... The matter that seems such a mystery is the statement that our Father in heaven at one time passed through a life and death and is an exalted man. This is one of the mysteries.... The Prophet taught that our Father had a Father and so on. Is not this a reasonable thought, especially when we remember that the promises are made to us that we may become like him?" (Joseph Fielding Smith, Doctrines of Salvation, vol. 1, pp.10, 12).

----"Jesus was the bridegroom at the marriage of Cana of Galilee...We say it was Jesus Christ who was married, to be brought into relation whereby he could see his seed [children] before he was crucified (Orson Hyde, Journal of Discourses, vol. 2, p. 82).

"There was a marriage in Cana of Galilee; and on a careful reading of that transaction, it will be discovered that non less a person that Jesus Christ was married on that occasion. If he was never married, his intimacy with Mary and Martha an the other Mary also whom Jesus loved, must have been highly unbecoming and improper to say the best of it." (Orson Hyde, Journal of Discourses, vol. 4, p. 259).

----"In the Church councils, it was spoken of: "Joseph F. Smith_ He spoke upon the marriage in Cana of Galilee. He thought Jesus was the bridegroom and Mary and Martha the brides."(Journal of Wilford Woodruff, July 22, 1883).

"The grand reason of the burst of public sentiment in anathemas upon Christ and his disciples, causing his crucifixion, was evidently based upon polygamy, according to the testimony of the philosophers who rose in that age. A belief in doctrine of a plurality of wives caused the persecution of Jesus and his followers. We might almost think they were Mormons (Jedediah Grant, Journal of Discourses, vol. 1, p. 346).

----"One thing is certain, that there were several holy women that great loved Jesus, such as Mary and Martha her sister, and Mary Magdalene; and Jesus greatly loved them and associated with the much; and when he arose from the dead, instead of first showing himself to his chosen witnesses, the Apostles, He appeared first to these women, or at least to one of them--namely, Mary Magdalene. Now, it would be very natural for a husband in the resurrection to appear first to his own dear wives, and afterwards show himself to his other friends. If all the acts of Jesus were written, we no doubt should learn that these beloved women were his wives." (Orson Pratt, The Seer, p. 159).


89 posted on 10/18/2010 4:35:14 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: MissesBush

BTW, as a member of the Flying Inmans who post the facts about Harry Reid’s Mormonism, using the actual quotes from Mormons’ religious leadership, we don’t attack ‘other religions’, we just ridicule the idiocy at the heart of the Mormonism claim to be ‘restored Christianity’. A few Mormonism apologists have tried to generate schism between Catholics and Protestants on Mormonism discussion threads, but it doesn’t work since one of the things Catholic Church and nearly ALL Protestant denominations have in common is the rejection of Mormonism and Mormonism baptism, because it is definitely not Christianity ‘restored’.


90 posted on 10/18/2010 4:42:24 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: greyfoxx39; colorcountry
con·tin·gen·cy [ kən tínjənssee ] something that may happen: an event that might occur in the future, especially a problem, emergency, or expense that might arise unexpectedly and therefore must be prepared for

"There is an anti-MormonISM contingency at FR, not an anti-Mormon contingency."

MIssy Bushee, we just wait for your ilk to surface, and that's why we are a contingency. You see, son, there are alot more than just the Flying Inmans refuting the heresies of Mormonism at FR. That would make the Inmans a contingent, but with being the watchers, we are a contingency.

91 posted on 10/18/2010 4:51:00 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: MissesBush
By the way, unless something is stated from the pulpit, how would we possibly know this? Telepathy?

Why, in the same way that it's known which businesses to deal with, which doctors to go to, etc. etc.

Of COURSE there wouldn't be a statement from the podium...why would any mormon vote for someone running against a "brother"? I'll just wait and see what the results are...I think it's so close that Reid will win WITH the mormon vote.

92 posted on 10/18/2010 5:34:59 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Pray for Obama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: greyfoxx39
There definitely will be lots of Mormons voting for Reid because he is a Mormon. However, there will also be many voting for Angle. Today's Las Vegas Sun has an article on this: http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2010/oct/17/mormon-vote-more-faith-angle/
93 posted on 10/18/2010 5:47:46 PM PDT by Nevadan
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To: Nevadan
Interesting...check this out...

A 2009 survey conducted by the Pew Forum on Religion & Public Life found that nearly 65 percent of Mormons are Republican or Republican leaning. That's 15 percentage points higher than members of evangelical churches and 30 points higher than the general population. Only 22 percent of Mormons said they are Democrats. Click here
94 posted on 10/18/2010 5:51:32 PM PDT by magritte ("There are moments, Jeeves, when one asks oneself "Do trousers matter?")
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To: magritte

The democrat plan to crash the American economy and usher in the world government and onw world currency has huge ramifications on crumbling the family as a societal unit of stability in America. That aspect of Harry ‘the undertaker’ Reid’s party may cause a much larger percentage of Mormons to vote him out in November. The message coming from Glenn Beck is not foreign to attentive Mormons. The family unit is paramount in Mormon theology. It is probably the most stabilizing institution for the Western areas populated with so many Mormons. The corrosive effect of homosexuality on society and particularly the family unit is something that has shown the LDS ability to mobilize sentiments in opposing a major danger to the family. Look for Mormons to vote overwhelmingly to oust these lying anti-American democrats.


95 posted on 10/18/2010 8:45:12 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: unixfox
She needs to be up at least 5 more points.
This is Nevada, corruption was invented in this state!

Invented? No, refined somewhat? Yeah, I'll buy that...

the infowarrior

96 posted on 10/18/2010 10:08:32 PM PDT by infowarrior
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To: MissesBush

Reid came off like the doddering idiot that he is. What a POS.


97 posted on 10/19/2010 12:57:38 AM PDT by chilltherats (First, kill all the lawyers (now that they ARE the tyrants).......)
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To: MissesBush

Ah, got it! Thanks - hadn’t thought of that (the hedonistic wannabe-highroller losers of society)


98 posted on 10/19/2010 1:03:25 AM PDT by AlanGreenSpam (Obama: The First 'American IDOL' President - sponsored by Chicago NeoCom Thugs)
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