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1 posted on 10/18/2010 8:06:32 AM PDT by Publius
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2 posted on 10/18/2010 8:08:39 AM PDT by Publius (I can see Uranus through my window tonight.)
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To: Publius
What possible solutions exist to move the balance in favor of federalism, and how could they be implemented peacefully?

As I see it there are three things that can be done that would peacefully move us in that direction. They are starting with the simplest first:

1. Pass the currently pending FairTax bill (HR-25) into law.

2. Repeal the 17th amendment to the Constitution.

3. Somehow develop an informed and active electorate.

The first would make us a truly FREE people once again economically.

The second would restore actual representation of the individual states to the structure of the federal government as was intended by the founders.

And the third, if it could be accomplished, would ensure much closer supervision of our elected representatives than is currently the case.

5 posted on 10/19/2010 4:25:52 AM PDT by Bigun ("It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere." Voltaire)
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To: Publius
Even the Articles of Confederation recognized implied powers. But Brutus correctly points out that the federal court system will stretch what is necessary and proper just as much as Congress or the President. What possible solutions exist to move the balance in favor of federalism, and how could they be implemented peacefully?

Our Founders knew the answer, which we continually ignore:

From the Virginia Declaration of Rights:
XV That no free government, or the blessings of liberty, can be preserved to any people but by a firm adherence to justice, moderation, temperance, frugality, and virtue and by frequent recurrence to fundamental principles.

In my recent readings, I ran into this jewel:

Hence the concentration of power and the subjection of individuals will increase among democratic nations, not only in the same proportion as their equality, but in the same proportion as their ignorance. It is true that in ages of imperfect civilization the government is frequently as wanting in the knowledge required to impose a despotism upon the people as the people are wanting in the knowledge required to shake it off; but the effect is not the same on both sides. However rude a democratic people may be, the central power that rules them is never completely devoid of cultivation, because it readily draws to its own uses what little cultivation is to be found in the country, and, if necessary, may seek assistance elsewhere. Hence among a nation which is ignorant as well as democratic an amazing difference cannot fail speedily to arise between the intellectual capacity of the ruler and that of each of his subjects. This completes the easy concentration of all power in his hands: the administrative function of the state is perpetually extended because the state alone is competent to administer the affairs of the country.
Alexis Tocqueville - - Democracy in America, Chap. IV

7 posted on 10/20/2010 8:16:43 AM PDT by Loud Mime (It's the CONSTITUTION! www.initialpoints.net)
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To: Publius
What possible solutions exist to move the balance in favor of federalism, and how could they be implemented peacefully?

The Articles of Confederation possessed expressly delegated powers only. The first draft of the 10th amendment contained that language--expressly delegated. It failed. Had it passed, it would have changed the nature of the Constitution, and would have been an amendment with teeth, as opposed to the toothless mockery that is the 10th amendment.

Pass an amendment limiting the powers of the national government to expressly delegated powers only. That'd change things a bit.

Then you've got to do something about Article 3. Most gubmint expansion can be seen as a combination of implied powers and Article 3 powers. The SCOTUS decisions must have some form of appeal==to the states.

10 posted on 10/21/2010 8:27:07 AM PDT by Huck (Antifederalist BRUTUS should be required reading.)
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