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Posted on 10/16/2010 3:37:55 PM PDT by george76
A senior Muslim cleric has been condemned by police and other Muslim leaders for claiming that there is no such thing as rape within marriage.
Sheikh Maulana Abu Sayeed, president of the Islamic Sharia Council in Britain, sparked outrage when he said he believed that men who rape their wives should not be prosecuted because 'sex is part of marriage'.
He further claimed, during an interview with the blog The Samosa, that many married women who made accusations of rape were lying.
His comments have caused fury among senior police officers, who already face great difficulties in getting women to report rape - a crime that all too often goes under-reported.
In the interview, Sheikh Sayeed said: 'Clearly there cannot be any rape within the marriage.
'Maybe aggression, maybe indecent activity... Because when they got married, the understanding was that sexual intercourse was part of the marriage, so there cannot be anything against sex in marriage.
(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...
Coming to a Shari’a-influenced SCOTUS near you.
Joy & Whoppi needn’t worry.
And? I don’t like Islam, but this is a common sense view. Allowing the concept of “rape” in marriage will end with almost every man being charged with “rape” during divorce proceeding. If something unprovable and financially very rewarding can be done by a woman in a divorce, many will do it.
I heard this at the Tea Party event in Houston today.
To be fair, this has been the case in the USA too.
Probably doesn’t fly now-a-days but in some places it was impossible to rape your wife. Conjugal rights or something.
Look it up and you may find that it wasn’t until the 1990’s that states were starting to remove the exception of a spouse in the case of rape.
Now don’t get me wrong, I don’t like the living devils we call islamists at all, just saying we had some wacky rules ourselves.
I wonder if he’d say the same thing if Muhammad took a 9-year old as his wife?
Ask around, it’s already being done.
Coming to France, ca. 2030
That's what I thought too.
Guess I better watch my P's and Q's with the Missus, and reevaluate. /s
“And? I don’t like Islam, but this is a common sense view. Allowing the concept of “rape” in marriage will end with almost every man being charged with “rape” during divorce proceeding. If something unprovable and financially very rewarding can be done by a woman in a divorce, many will do it.”
This is an old issue in family law. Typically in the Anglo-American system, the court looks towards forensic or witness proof of violence to support a charge of rape within a marriage. Accordingly, in an ugly divorce with an unscrupulous, perjuring spouse, the charge now is more often sexual abuse of a child of the marriage, if there is one. The evidentiary standards are more relaxed.
The position stated in the source, which is that the marriage contract involved a permanent agreement to have sexual relations, was US law until about thirty years ago. I remember the first case in US history of a conviction for marital rape, sometime in the 70’s, I think.
That is no longer socially or legally the case in the West, but it is certainly the case in the Muslim world.
The right to say no isn’t the problem or in question. Its a practical matter of proving what really occurred. Its just too easy for a wife to claim rape and demonstrate sexual activity. She could easily engage in “rough” sex to make sure the evidence was even more on her side.
Works. Wouldn’t want an unwilling wife.
That said, does that mean I can say no to making her car payment?
lol they do act like animals
Wasn’t it Whoppi that gave us that wonderful “...well, it wasn’t, you know, rape-rape...” So I guess if I take my wife against her will, that’s not “rape-rape” either, or in Muslim’s eyes? What BS.
Further proof this is a religion of gangsters. This is something I would expect from Tony Soprano. Even a wife has
the right to say “No” to her husband. No means no.
I have to disagree. Yes, it should remove the legal threat of criminal charges of rape. Now, being assaulted with malice is one thing, but a marriage is entered into at arms length and with eyes wide open.
I also don't agree that once a woman engages in sexual activity that she has the right to say no in the middle of the act.
It is also entered into at arms length and with eyes wide open.
In some, perhaps many, states, that also would be rape.
Talk about the gelding of the American male!
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