Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Israel’s F-35 engine selection in dispute between rival manufacturers
Flight International ^ | 14/10/10 | Stephen Trimble

Posted on 10/14/2010 8:19:10 PM PDT by sukhoi-30mki

Israel’s F-35 engine selection in dispute between rival manufacturers

By Stephen Trimble

An announced engine selection for Israel's first batch of F-35 Joint Strike Fighters has sparked a new dispute between both rival manufacturers.

Pratt & Whitney says the company has received a verbal commitment by Israel to buy the F135 engine to power the first batch of 20 F-35s ordered under a $2.75 agreement signed last week.

The General Electric/Rolls-Royce team developing the F136 alternate engine claims the selection process remains ongoing.

"We fully anticipate we will have an opportunity to compete with the F136" in Israel, a General Electric spokesman says.

The controversy leaves in doubt the first potential engine selection by a non-US F-35 customer for production phase aircraft.

Pratt & Whitney claims the timing of the Israel's order is critical, with only one production engine available to meet the customer's scheduled entry into service in 2015.

The F136, however, is on track to become operational on US-owned F-35s in 2013. "We will definitely have an engine ready when [Israel] wants it," General Electric says.

Pratt & Whitney says that it was the only engine manufacturer invited to the ceremony in New York where Israeli officials signed the letter of offer and acceptance to commit to the fighter purchase. "The other guys weren't there," a spokeswoman says.

Moreover, the F135-maker also notes that it has sold engines to Israel since 1947 and the company's engines currently power all of the country's fixed-wing combat jets.

General Electric, however, says F136 representatives delivered a briefing about the F-35 programme's alternate engine in Israel earlier this week at the invitation of the government in Tel Aviv.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Israel; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aerospace; f135; f136; israel

1 posted on 10/14/2010 8:19:13 PM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: sukhoi-30mki

$2.75 is a pretty good price for 20 F-35’s.


2 posted on 10/14/2010 8:23:35 PM PDT by yarddog
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: sukhoi-30mki
I know some Israelis pretty well, and they know how to drive a hard bargain, but 20 units of F135 jet engines for $2.75... well, all I can say is mazel tov and make sure you count your change.
3 posted on 10/14/2010 8:24:13 PM PDT by Steely Tom (Obama goes on long after the thrill of Obama is gone)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: yarddog

Sooo...the F35 is what? low buck version of the F350? Can they get that with the diesel and 4x4?


4 posted on 10/14/2010 8:27:09 PM PDT by mamelukesabre (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum (If you want peace prepare for war))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: mamelukesabre

No the diesel and 4X4 is a quarter extra.


5 posted on 10/14/2010 8:28:55 PM PDT by yarddog
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: sukhoi-30mki

If they commit to the GE/Rolls option will the British government be able to withhold spare parts and supplies whenever they are unhappy with Israel’s policies? Safer to just stick with PW.


6 posted on 10/14/2010 8:34:41 PM PDT by SeeSharp
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SeeSharp

Israel isn’t safe trusting in any nation, including the US. If the Brits would break a contract to deliver spare parts, then so would we. Therefore, they should go with the best bang for the buck.


7 posted on 10/14/2010 10:24:36 PM PDT by Blogger
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: sukhoi-30mki

There isn’t going to be an F136 if the US Government doesn’t continue its development funding.

And there are no funds in next year’s budget for the alternate engine program.


8 posted on 10/15/2010 4:37:57 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Blogger

They are already stuck with being judged by the US because the plane is a US plane. There is nothing they can do to avoid having to cater to US political whims. Buying the GE/Rolls engine might put them under the thumb of an additional government and, in the case of Britain, a hostile government.


9 posted on 10/15/2010 4:59:00 AM PDT by SeeSharp
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: SeeSharp

Guess that will be for Israel to decide. Great Britain can use the cash.


10 posted on 10/15/2010 5:20:41 AM PDT by Blogger
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson