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To: Mr Rogers; Red Steel; Las Vegas Ron

Oh, BTW, on the subject of [English] Common Law do you happen to remember the Magna Carts?
Basically it was a bunch of the nobles getting together to force the King to sign a binding document under threat of war/death/expulsion.

If’n you want to cite that then what’s to [legally] stop some section of America from seizing the Congress while it is in session and forcing them to sign on to Constitutional Amendments? If so, I think I need to raise such a force to get the following 10 Amendments put into the Constitution:

1 - The Untied States shall, in no way, tax the property of the individual.
2 - The United States, if imposing taxes upon income, shall use a uniform rate (with no exceptions) which is not greater than ten percent.
3 - The authority of the Congress to regulate the value of monies is hereby Repealed.
3.a — The value of one US Dollar shall be that of 1/16,000 lb.
3.b — Because the Congress shall still have the power to define weights and measures the pound refereed to in 3.a is approx 453.59237 grams.
3.c — There shall be no federal minimum wage.
4 - The Congress, being a poor steward of the Full Faith and Credit of the United States is hereby restricted on its assumption of debt:
4.a — All debts & monetary wages payable by the Federal Government shall be made in the form of the physical transference of Silver or Gold.
4.b — The Treasury shall make a Report of all monies physically in its position at least once a year; misreporting shall be punished by death upon conviction thereof.
4.c — The United States will not enter into any debt which results in the total debt-obligation of the United States to be in excess of One-Hundred-Ten percent of the monies physically on-hand in the Treasury.
5 - No Ex-Felon, that is someone who having committed a felony and served the sentence imposed, shall have any Right or Privilege of Citizenship denied.
5 - Any organization funded, in any way, by the federal government must allow the private Citizen to bear arms on its premises.
6 - Any Supreme Court ruling may be tried and overturned by a majority vote of a Jury consisting of the Supreme Courts of the several states.
7 - The 17th Amendment is hereby repealed.
8 - The 12th Amendment is hereby repealed.
9 - If, during elections for President the Senate’s ballot-vote be equally divided, then the current Vice President will choose from among the candidates tied candidates receiving the most votes who shall be the new President and who shall be the new Vice President. [this amends Art2, Sec 1]
10 - Any government agent, having seized effects in violation of Amendment 4, shall be personally liable for four times the valuation of said items, the legality of the item notwithstanding. If multiple agents are involved in the seizure than they are all so liable.


969 posted on 10/18/2010 12:59:13 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: OneWingedShark

You still don’t understand the difference between being UNDER English common law, and the idea that English common law provided the common terminology the Founders were familiar with for writing law.

Pity. But if you can’t handle a simple concept like that, then discussion of law isn’t possible with you.


973 posted on 10/18/2010 1:15:38 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (When the ass brays, don't reply...)
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To: OneWingedShark

Well, it would technically be illegal to seize Congress and attempt to force Constitutional amendments under threat of war/death/expulsion. So my advice would be don’t try it unless you’re feeling pretty certain about the quality and quantity of the force you’re raised.


975 posted on 10/18/2010 1:26:16 PM PDT by tired_old_conservative
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To: OneWingedShark

Impressive list, you have my vote!


985 posted on 10/18/2010 1:41:36 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Moderates manipulate, extremists use violence, but the goal is the same.)
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To: OneWingedShark

‘If’n you want to cite that then what’s to [legally] stop some section of America from seizing the Congress while it is in session and forcing them to sign on to Constitutional Amendments? If so, I think I need to raise such a force to get the following 10 Amendments put into the Constitution:’

That would be the US military acting legally to prevent the coup d-etat you describe. By the way, after you succeed with this coup, how are you going to get the politicians in 3/4 of the states to ratify these changes, and who will be running the country in the years before any ratification can be accomplished. I guess you will simply have to establish a personal dictatorship to see things done right, Mr. Cromwell/Mussolini.


1,018 posted on 10/18/2010 4:38:59 PM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla ('“Our own government has become our enemy' - Sheriff Paul Babeu)
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