>>“When I was in the Army, it was incumbent upon me, the soldier, to provide documentation should it be lost, especially concerning promotions.”
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>Bull! I spent 25 years in the military, and on any given day or month I couldn’t have PROVED my promotion except for my ID card.
I think you misunderstand me; I was referring to proving you were eligible for the promotion, ie the promotion packed. What did you do when the S1 lost your PT card, or rifle qual, or some other documentation required for your promotion? Slam yourself to the ground and commence banging your head and feet on the ground like a three year old? Or were you required to either a) redo the work [with attainment paperwork] and qualify again, b) submit a personal copy, or c) give up because it didn’t matter all that much anyway?
>And if anyone had challenged my orders on the basis that I wasn’t an officer or had the rank, I would NOT have been expected to show him paperwork to his satisfaction. The burden of proof for his accusation would have to come from him.
And what if he *DID* have the proof? What if it was something as screwed up as a missing signature on a form somewhere?
The massive number of forgeries and oddities surrounding Obama *do* warrant further investigation, IMO.
(Just *how many* SSNs does he have? ... and that’s only one point; several freepers have a good several screen-fulls of such oddities.)
>Otherwise, I’d have the cops take him away.
Hm; what about the private who refuses to let you into a secure area because you’re not on his list of authorized people? Are you going to call the cops on him too?
(In any case he should alert the Sgt of the Guard to your demands for entry.)
>My daughter’s certificate from New Mexico is in the same format as Obama’s, and no one can challenge her birth in the USA based on wanting to see the name of the physician.
*shrug* - I did *NOT* say that all birth-certificates have the attending physician’s signature; just that I am [personally] unfamiliar with any that are such [and that unfamiliarity would prompt my curiosity]. Or do you expect me to be omniscient, knowing all about everything?
“I think you misunderstand me; I was referring to proving you were eligible for the promotion...”
I was not responsible for maintaining that paperwork. The records that went to the promotion board were available for review prior to the board. I suppose if someone had dropped out a school or degree or OPR, I would have contacted the school and had them send the paperwork.
Obama doesn’t have to justify his standing as CINC any more than I had to justify my rank to those beneath me. If someone wanted to disobey orders based on the belief I hadn’t been promoted, it would have been up to him to offer proof - not for me to submit proof for his review.
Lakin is refusing to obey until he is given proof that his commander is qualified, although he has presented no evidence to the contrary. That is unacceptable to the military.
“What if it was something as screwed up as a missing signature on a form somewhere?”
Fine. Produce the evidence. But you haven’t, and neither has Lakin. That makes Lakin the equivalent of a Sgt refusing to obey my orders until I prove to his satisfaction that I didn’t cheat in OTS.
“Hm; what about the private who refuses to let you into a secure area because you’re not on his list of authorized people?”
Then my order is illegal because my rank is irrelevant. The private is obeying orders and regulations, and I am the one who is not. What does that have to do with Lakin & Obama?
“Or do you expect me to be omniscient, knowing all about everything?”
No, but I expect Lakin’s legal council to research it. And I expect Lakin to research it before publicly refusing to obey an order to deploy and treat wounded people.