http://hawaii.gov/health/vital-records/vital-records/index.html
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Who is eligible to apply and how to apply for an amendment?
Amended certificates of birth may be prepared and filed with the Department of Health, as provided by law, for
1) a person born in Hawaii who already has a birth certificate filed with the Department of Health or
2) a person born in a foreign country.
Who is eligible to apply and how to apply for an amended certificate of birth?
Late registration, registration one year or more after the date of the event’s occurrence, of certificates are permitted subject to evidentiary requirements.
Who is eligible to apply and how to apply for late registration?
Paternity for a child with unmarried parents can be legally established and reflected in the child’s birth certificate as described in the Voluntary Establishment of Paternity (VEP) brochure link below.
How to voluntarily establish paternity
Sample VEP completed at hospital (not for reproduction or official use)
Sample VEP completed at the Department of Health (not for reproduction or official use)
Requests to change an item (e.g., following a legal change of name) on a Certificate of Hawaiian Birth will result in the cancellation of the Certificate of Hawaiian Birth and the preparation of a late birth certificate in lieu thereof, subject to the evidentiary requirements specific to late registration in connection with Certificates of Hawaiian Birth.
Who is eligible to apply and how to apply for a late birth certificate in lieu of a Certificate of Hawaiian Birth?
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Who is Eligible to Apply for the Issuance of a Late Birth Certificate in Lieu of a Certificate of Hawaiian Birth?
The Certificate of Hawaiian Birth program was established in 1911, during the territorial era, to register a person born in Hawaii who was one year old or older and whose birth had not been previously registered in Hawaii. The Certificate of Hawaiian Birth Program was terminated in 1972, during the statehood era.
Certified copies of a Certificate of Hawaiian Birth may be requested following the procedures for certified copies of standard birth certificates (see Certified Copies). The eligibility requirements for issuance of a certified copy of a standard birth certificate apply to Certificates of Hawaiian Birth.
And the same fees charged for standard birth certificates are charged for Certificates of Hawaiian Birth. Copies of the set of testimony used to establish a Certificate of Hawaiian Birth may also be requested, and an additional fee is charged for each copy of the set of testimony.”
http://hawaii.gov/health/vital-records/vital-records/hawnbirth.html)
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“[§338-17.8] Certificates for children born out of State.
(a) Upon application of an adult or the legal parents of a minor child, the director of health shall issue a birth certificate for such adult or minor, provided that proof has been submitted to the director of health that the legal parents of such individual while living without the Territory or State of Hawaii had declared the Territory or State of Hawaii as their legal residence for at least one year immediately preceding the birth or adoption of such child.
(b) Proof of legal residency shall be submitted to the director of health in any manner that the director shall deem appropriate. The director of health may also adopt any rules pursuant to chapter 91 that he or she may deem necessary or proper to prevent fraudulent applications for birth certificates and to require any further information or proof of events necessary for completion of a birth certificate.
(c) The fee for each application for registration shall be established by rule adopted pursuant to chapter 91. [L 1982, c 182, §1]”
http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/hrscurrent/Vol06_Ch0321-0344/HRS0338/HRS_0338-0017_0008.htm
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Many states have begun to grapple with the issue of immigration reform in response to Congress’ failure to act.
Hawaii Legislature has turned the other way, contrary to impressions left in a new nationwide survey, possibly because of worker shortage or liberal leanings.
The National Conference of State Legislatures reports that state legislatures considered 1,404 immigration measures this year and enacted 170 of them, including 18 measures approved by the Hawaii Legislature. State lawmakers elsewhere adopted measures aimed to curb employment of unauthorized immigrants and to make it more difficult for them to obtain state identification documents, such as driver’s licenses.
These Hawaii measures, however, can hardly be interpreted as a crackdown on illegal aliens. For example, a Hawaii bill that the NCSL says “excludes certain alien agricultural workers” from receiving unemployment benefits actually stops forcing them to pay into the program “even though they will never qualify to collect unemployment benefits.”
A new law, cited by the report, requires all persons seeking jobs with the state or any county “must be citizens, nationals or permanent residents of the United States or eligible under federal law for unrestricted employment in the United States.” However, as of October 2007 Hawaii is among the few states still issuing driver’s licenses to illegal immigrants.
http://www.usimmigrationsupport.org/hawaii.html
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One only has to read and try to make sense of the policies on their website, note the reports of actual dealings FReepers have had with HI DOH, read the published reports of others on the web who’ve been engaged in attempts to get consistent and accurate information and actions from them, to grasp that they are completely unprofessional, dysfunctional, inconsistent and even contradictory.
It’s like trying to pick up jello to get a trustworthy conclusive and straight answer from what I’ve seen, and their history of past immigration and citizenship ‘ease’ and official agency laxity are well known.
God only knows what it will ever take to get fully reliable, accurate and authentic information that one could completely trust from them, but that DOES NOT absolve them in any way from the obligation to perform their sworn duties required of their government positions, professionally and accurately, under the rule of law, and to be held rigorously accountable for them.
“God only knows what it will ever take to get fully reliable, accurate and authentic information that one could completely trust from them...”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Iy8i61DmAg
Now, in regards to the lack of confirmation of Obama’s online “Certification” of live birth (not a CERTIFICATE of live birth, commonly known as a birth CERTIFICATE)we will hear objections that Hawaii was protecting the”privacy” of Obama by not confirming that the document that he posted online, mirrored the records Hawaii had of said document.
However, how would that defend Obama’s “privacy” if he, himself (people under his direction and control) had placed the document with the obvious intention to be viewed by the public?
And further, if “privacy” were an issue, he could easily grant Hawaii permission to state that, in fact, said document mirrors the document(S)they have at the HDOH?
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“...to grasp that they are completely unprofessional, dysfunctional, inconsistent and even contradictory.”
It is a government agency. That is what I expect - particularly from Hawaii. Think Democrat. Think Government. Expect incompetency that borders if it doesn’t cross into evil.
BTW - did some reading last night about Arkansas prisons in the 60s under the Democrats, and the “Duke of Duval” in Texas. It is more than a bit frightening.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Murton#Prison_scandal
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Berham_Parr
I’m sorry, but I think you must have intended to ping someone else.
Because, y’see, I asked for evidence supporting Danae’s claim that Hawaii regularly handed out domestic birth certificates to foreign-born kids back around the time of Obama’s birth.
Ladysforest, you suggested I viewed two videos that had absolutely nothing to do with foreign kids getting Hawaiian birth certificates, and STARWISE, you put up a 1000-word post that at least was on-topic, but still didn’t cite any evidence that Hawaii regularly gave out birth certificates saying ‘Born in Hawaii’. In particular, notice that none of the material you cited actually says that Hawaii will issue a certificate saying ‘Born in Hawaii’ to a kid not born in Hawaii.
So really, neither of you gave anything close to a positive answer to the question. Either there’s evidence supporting the claim, or there’s not. Either Danae is basing her claim on a reliable source that said that Hawaii regularly handed out such certificates, or she just made it up because it just *seemed* possible, and then she presented it as though it were an actual fact.
It looks to me like Danae’s claim is nothing more than rampant speculation, not actual fact, as it is presented. And if y’all had any evidence supporting it, I’d tend to think you would have cited it yourselves, instead of dancing around a straight answer or attempting to change the subject.