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To: danamco
Exactly Danamco. So this very long thread is largely wasted breath. What we have is what Leo Donofrio recognized over a year ago, a legislature and judiciary which are no longer independent, nor beholden to our Constitution. There is not doubt, as Chief Justice Morrison Waite, quoted in Wong Kim Ark said:
“...it was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives, or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners.”

If “it was never doubted,” why are we here. Both Republicans and Democrats ran ineligible candidates. Both are partially controlled by special interests. Both parties and the media have been neutralized by Alinsky’s Fifth Rule: “Ridicule is man's most potent weapon.” The Democrats at least are honest about their intentions. Our Republican party leaders are undermining Joe Miller, Christine O’Donnel, and even supported Castle and Christ until they were completely dead, and still support Lisa Murkowski. In another time we would say “follow the money!” Now that we are a nation of men and not of laws, we must first fix the nation.

Most of us, all who have read the legal doctrine upon which our republic based upon ideas was based, the first such government, know that Obama is illegitimate. No one in power dares speak up because it will likely cost him or her his job, and with it his power. Their ignorance defense will not fall until the balance of power has shifted. It is a sad truth.

What we CAN do is everything to eliminate anyone, Republican or Democrat, who vacillates in any way around the Obama-Soros missions. Obama, who never told anyone he was a natural born citizen, has ridden in on the support of the public employee unions, along with what remains of our trade unions, largely dying as our manufacturing moves offshore. AFSCME is the largest single campaign contributor to this election. AFSCME employees and Acorn count absentee ballots in many, probably most, states. They count all the ballots in some states. They will steal this election if they can because their services and pensions are bankrupting the country, but many of them are not particularly skilled, and would be at a disadvantage in a capitalist society. They will benefit, for a while, from Communism.

If we attempt a litmus test for candidates such as asking “What is the definition of a natural born citizen?” most candidates will fail, as did Jim DeMint and John Kyl. They know the truth puts a target on their backs. That question must wait until we have a majority in the house, and that will not happen if the fraud already being executed succeeds.

Free Republic could help to make us free again if Freepers would find the experts in their precincts on voter fraud, and volunteer to watch polls. It was a surprise to learn that some observant and committed conservatives overturned two blatantly fraudulent elections in upper middle class Contra Costa County in California. The fraud was well organized and backed by the NEA. Like the famous unprosecuted Shabazz voter intimidation case in Philadelphia, they put menacing union thugs at the corners of the ballot validation room. Fraud will be everywhere. We cannot ask for identification in California, but poll watchers can oversee absentee counting, and can learn the bag of tricks Obama used to teach in his “Project Vote” days.

We need to get informed because, while Obama is not legitimate, it is scarier that he never said he was! He said his father was a Kenyan, he himself was born a British subject. He knew he would be protected by both Democrats and Republicans, and he has been. We need a house cleaning! Without combating the fraud, we will make gains - the Ruling Class will let enough seats change to be able to blame Republicans for obstructing the recovery which will never happen. Real unemployment is closer to 20% than the claimed 12, and growing, while the government is growing. But we are in the process of collapsing economically, which will insure a third killing for George Soros in the currency markets. He has homes in many countries. Besides not knowing in which country Barack was born, we don't know where his refuge will be, but I'm guessing Venezuela, since when the U.S. fails Saudi Arabia won't be long in following.

The Constitution holds no meaning for the Ruling Class, except for those who write books about it or use it to support civil cases. Even Obama's background means little, except to the authors who profit from yet another excursion through the constructed life, assiduously avoiding the simple fact of his illigitimacy due to his British birth. He is simply an undistinguished but certainly bright con man who parlayed his affirmative action credentials into becoming the front man for some powerful interests. We have Madison's “government of men, and not laws.” We may still be able to change it, while our local agencies pay lip service to the Constitution. It is clear, with the Feds joining foreign countries to sue states, that we have enemies both in our justice department and its overseers in the executive. Campaigning, supporting candidates, free speech, all mean nothing if our votes don't reflect our preferences, and today, our votes are being stolen.

Every AP story about how the polls show races tightening up are to assuage the public when their candidate, as happened in Washington state, Minnesota, and will happen all over the country, didn't quite make it. The Republicans are a bit less likely to support outright fraud, but they supported a malleable Democrat to run for California's Secretary of State position, the election watchdog, chosen no doubt because he tells his rags to riches story well, only omitting his adoration for Barack. Damon Dunn changed his Democrat registrations in two states, asking the Florida Sec. of State to expunge his record, only 6 months before entering the race in California as a Republican, and moving to Orange County, claiming to be a minster. Since the California watchdog, Deborah Bowan, is an SEIU Democrat, election laws meant nothing. Dunn had an easy ride because his opponent was Orly Taitz, already “targeted,frozen, personalized, and polarized” (Alinsky's 13th Rule) by by the Alinsky left and Ruling Class Republican right. Taitz ran to expose voter fraud and fix registration irregularities ignored by both the Republicans and encouraged by Democrats.

Perhaps Free Republic patriots could learn, and it is a very complex topic, about the techniques of voter fraud being used on them, and encourage more to become poll watchers. You are seeing only the fringes, the late absentee ballots being sent overseas is an old story, and you know this justice department would simply not allow military members to vote if it could. You have heard of counts being allowed which exceeded the number of registered voters in St. Louis. You probably didn't hear about the retirement community residents whose primary ballots were lost and others whose registrations were changed during the Orly Taitz-Damon Dunn primary. The invalidation of absentee ballots because instructions were intentionally misleading is another trick. The security of the counting is, to this reader, the most suspicious, since there is no way to validate counts. We do not live in a representative republic if our elections are controlled by would-be tyrants, and that is now the case.

1,732 posted on 10/23/2010 1:13:37 AM PDT by Spaulding
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To: Spaulding; Red Steel; rxsid; Las Vegas Ron

39th Congress debates...an example..

” This act of legislation would destroy the foundations of the Government as they were laid and established by our fathers, who reserved to the States certain privileges and immunities which ought sacredly to be preserved to them.

” If you had attempted to do it in the days of those who were living at the time the Constitution was made, after the birth of that noble instrument, the spirit of the heroes of the Revolution and the ghosts of the departed who laid down their lives in defense of-the liberty of this country and of the rights of the States,

would have come forth as witnesses against the deadly infliction, and the destruction of the fundamental principle of the sovereignty of the States in violation of the Constitution, and the breaking down of the ties that bind the States, and the violation of the rights and liberties of the white men and white women of America.

” If you pass this bill, you will allow the negroes of this country to compete for the high office of President of the United States.

Because if they are citizens at all, they come within the meaning and letter of the Constitution of the United States, which allows all natural-born citizens to become candidates for the Presidency, and to exercise the duties of that office if elected.

” I am afraid of degrading this Government; I am afraid of danger to constitutional liberty;

I am alarmed at the stupendous strides which this Congress is trying to initiate; and I appeal in behalf of my country, in behalf of those that are to come after us, of generations yet unborn, as well as those now living, that conservative men on the other side should rally to the standard of sovereign and independent States,

Mr. Rogers, of New Jersey

History of the Thirty-ninth Congress of the United States
By William Horatio Barnes


1,733 posted on 10/23/2010 7:28:10 AM PDT by bushpilot1
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To: Spaulding
AFSCME employees and Acorn count absentee ballots in many, probably most, states. They count all the ballots in some states.

WTF!!!

I've never heard of that before, that is in no way legal.

If that is true it needs to be exposed and stopped right now!

1,734 posted on 10/23/2010 7:47:56 AM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Moderates manipulate, extremists use violence, but the goal is the same.)
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To: Spaulding; Red Steel; rxsid; Las Vegas Ron; STE=Q

Mr. Shellabarger, of Ohio, said: “ I agree with the gentleman on the other side of the House, that this bill can not be passed under that clause of the Constitution which provides that Congress may pass uniform rules of naturalization.

Under that clause it is my opinion that the act of naturalization must not only be the act of the Government, but also the act of the individual alien, by which he renounces his former allegiance and accepts the new one.

And that proposition and distinction will be found, I think, in all judicious arguments upon the subject.

History of the Thirty-ninth Congress of the United States
By William Horatio Barnes


1,735 posted on 10/23/2010 7:50:30 AM PDT by bushpilot1
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To: Spaulding
If “it was never doubted,” why are we here. Both Republicans and Democrats ran ineligible candidates. Both are partially controlled by special interests. Both parties and the media have been neutralized by Alinsky’s Fifth Rule: “Ridicule is man's most potent weapon.” The Democrats at least are honest about their intentions. Our Republican party leaders are undermining Joe Miller, Christine O’Donnel, and even supported Castle and Christ until they were completely dead, and still support Lisa Murkowski. In another time we would say “follow the money!” Now that we are a nation of men and not of laws, we must first fix the nation.

Thank you for your posts, I always enjoy them and learn from them!

That's why it grieves me tremendously when seeing veterans popping up as "FReepers"(?) claiming they are Conservatives and WE are NOT. Most everyone now knows by now that you have an usurper stealing his way into OUR White House, and those here are doing their very best of keeping him there at any cost!!

Their postings are the prove in the putting, and I don't hesitate to call them Quislings, in which was an Era that I lived under by tyranny. Even JimRob says he detest SPs more than anything!!!

This "cancer" should be removed by any means of surgery immediately for our nation to survive the metastasize spreading as wild fire. To me any means of this removal is better than sitting idle, whether it's by means of Taitz, Berg, Apuzzo, Donofrio, Inspector, Keyes and the many other unfruitful attempts squashed by the intimidation you mention including the judiciary. Shouldn't it be a common goal as true FReepers to save our nation from ruin, even a Honduras action???

1,741 posted on 10/23/2010 9:13:41 AM PDT by danamco (")
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To: Spaulding

An elected and removed official that the SPs say is NOT possible, hmmm!!!

http://history.nd.gov/exhibits/governors/governors19.html


1,745 posted on 10/23/2010 10:08:21 AM PDT by danamco (")
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To: Spaulding

Excellent points!

We have to just expect and have the camera phones
out and the courage to counter the vote fraud
that will likely be at a monumental pitch in this
election.

The wave of evildoers who sold their souls have
been doing their election badness for such a
longer time than we ever were wise enough to realize.
We were so naive. This time, they’re desperate.

All hell is about to break loose, never mind the
election lawsuits that’ll delay voting results for
who knows how long.

Man up, all!! Courage !! God bless us all and save
America.


1,750 posted on 10/23/2010 11:14:41 AM PDT by STARWISE (The overlords are in place .. we are a nation under siege .. pray, go Galt & hunker down)
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To: Spaulding

Placemark for gotta read.


1,769 posted on 10/23/2010 8:56:17 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point.CSLewis)
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To: Spaulding; LucyT; Jim Robinson

Pinging you both to an extremely importnat post by Spaulding about voting fraud.


1,770 posted on 10/23/2010 9:01:40 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point.CSLewis)
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