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A glut of fatwas spurs Saudi king to impose curbs
Washington Post ^ | October 10, 2010 | Maggie Michael

Posted on 10/13/2010 2:19:14 PM PDT by La Lydia

The ideology that reigns in Saudi Arabia comes into plain view on the website of the Council of Senior Religious Scholars, where boys and girls sharing a swimming pool causes "mischief and evil" and bringing flowers to a hospital patient is discouraged because it's a foreign custom that "imitates Allah's adversaries." And those fatwas come from the government-appointed body of clerics who are the guardians of the kingdom's ultraconservative Wahhabi school of Islam. But there's also a whole other world of independent clerics issuing their own interpretations, often contradictory...

Now King Abdullah is moving to regain control over this abundance of fatwas. Under a royal decree..only the official panel may issue the fatwas that answer every question of how pious Saudis should live their lives...In recent weeks, websites and a satellite station where clerics answered questions have been shut down. One preacher was publicly reprimanded for urging a boycott of a supermarket chain for employing female cashiers. Some Saudis wonder whether any of this points the way to a more liberal code. Saad Sowayan, a Saudi historian, thinks it does. "The state wants to take the lead in shaping public opinion and this serves the issue of secularism and modernity..."

But many of the powerful clerics on the 21-member council are themselves hard-liners. Beyond strict edicts on morality, they reinforce a worldview whereby non-Muslims and even liberal or Shiite Muslims are considered infidels, and their stances on jihad, or holy war, at times differ only in nuances from al-Qaida's....

Saudi media have speculated that the king's resolve may have been hardened by a recent fatwa that provoked particular public uproar. Sheik al-Obeikan ruled that if a woman needs to appear without her veil in front of an adult, unrelated male, she has the option of breast-feeding him....

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: council; izlam; ridicule; violence
Even the Saudi King is beginning to realize how ridiculous some of these rules are. Ridicule is a good way to treat these people.
1 posted on 10/13/2010 2:19:18 PM PDT by La Lydia
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To: La Lydia

A fatwa on fatwas?


2 posted on 10/13/2010 2:19:59 PM PDT by WAW (Which enumerated power?)
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To: La Lydia

And a nice, sharp sword to thin the herd on occasion.


3 posted on 10/13/2010 2:20:03 PM PDT by Niuhuru (The Internet is the digital AIDS; adapting and successfully destroying the MSM host.)
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To: WAW

I guess. Unauthorized fatwas are haram.


4 posted on 10/13/2010 2:23:21 PM PDT by La Lydia
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To: La Lydia

They need a Fatwa superhighway


5 posted on 10/13/2010 2:23:29 PM PDT by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com <--- My Fiction/ Science Fiction Board)
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To: La Lydia; Slings and Arrows

Always curb your fatwa.


6 posted on 10/13/2010 2:24:08 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Ask yourself,where does Saudi Arabia fit on a scale of "passive" to "moderate" to "extremist" Islam?)
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To: La Lydia
Sheik al-Obeikan ruled that if a woman needs to appear without her veil in front of an adult, unrelated male, she has the option of breast-feeding him....

WTF?!?! So, in order to prevent his mind from being enticed by simply her unveiled face, she should distract him by sticking a boob in his mouth? Yeah, this will turn the guy off.

7 posted on 10/13/2010 2:29:39 PM PDT by 5thGenTexan
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To: La Lydia

8 posted on 10/13/2010 2:29:44 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This post is not a statement of fact. It is merely a personal opinion -- or humor -- or both.)
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To: 5thGenTexan

That’s actually in the Quran.

What’s a misogynistic pseudo-religious political system without a good dose of rape and sexual harassment?!


9 posted on 10/13/2010 2:32:03 PM PDT by Soothesayer (“None can love freedom heartily, but good men; the rest love not freedom, but license...")
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To: La Lydia
Sheik Abdul-Mohsen al-Obeikan ruled that if a woman needs to appear without her veil in front of an adult, unrelated male, she has the option of breast-feeding him, because it establishes a mother-son bond in Islamic tradition. That reasoning has been heard in a few fatwas by other sheiks, but is rejected by most scholars.

This is sick! Proof that Islam is a Mental Disease/Defect. And should be abolished!
10 posted on 10/13/2010 2:32:58 PM PDT by HighlyOpinionated (ARREST Barry Dunham Soetoro "Soebarkah" Barack Hussein Muhammad Obama for FRAUD!)
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To: La Lydia

So His Majesty has declared jihad on fatwas?


11 posted on 10/13/2010 2:34:03 PM PDT by RichInOC (No! BAD Rich! (What'd I say?)...Richard Frank DeCamp, 11/13/34-9/15/10, R.I.P.)
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To: BenLurkin

Sheik Abdul-Rahman al-Barrak

Any relation to Caliph Hussein-Obama al-Barack?


12 posted on 10/13/2010 2:36:03 PM PDT by HighlyOpinionated (ARREST Barry Dunham Soetoro "Soebarkah" Barack Hussein Muhammad Obama for FRAUD!)
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To: La Lydia

Saudi Arabia = Arab = Muslim = Islam = Islamic State

Saudi Arabia is the head of all Islam; this is the nation which is at war with the world through its surrogates!


13 posted on 10/13/2010 2:36:40 PM PDT by ntmxx (I am not so sure about their misdirection!)
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To: 5thGenTexan

Yes. You are beginning to appreciate the subtleties of the Muzlim mind. But you will note that this was too nutty even for the king.


14 posted on 10/13/2010 2:38:37 PM PDT by La Lydia
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To: La Lydia

Islam is a catch-all phrase for followers of Mohammed and the Koran. There is no hierarchy, there is no leadership deciding scriptural or Koranic matters, there is no training system for “Imams.” The Saudis, as the holders of the 2 holy cities Mecca and Medina have tried to claim some authority for themselves, but otherwise it is nearly “anything goes” - and in such systems, it is the loudest and most violent who get the most attention.

That is why it is complete bollocks to think you can “negotiate” with Islam, apologize to Islam, or call a charlatan like Abdul Faisal Rauf, who represents nothing, an “Imam”


15 posted on 10/13/2010 2:38:52 PM PDT by PGR88
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“Sheik Abdul-Mohsen al-Obeikan ruled that if a woman needs to appear without her veil in front of an adult, unrelated male, she has the option of breast-feeding him, because it establishes a mother-son bond in Islamic tradition. That reasoning has been heard in a few fatwas by other sheiks, but is rejected by most scholars.”

So if I become a muslim, and want some boobie action, I simply need to engineer an “accidental” removal of her veil, and then demand boobie compensation. Sweet.


16 posted on 10/13/2010 2:48:36 PM PDT by dsrtsage (One half of all people have below average IQ...In the US the number is 54%)
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