Posted on 10/12/2010 10:04:00 AM PDT by Neil E. Wright
In August, I asked "Why is Obama Administration blocking import of surplus rifles?," citing "problems" that were described as "ambiguous" being the reason a sale previously approved by the State Department had been halted.
The ambiguity has now been cleared up. A Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives advisory titled "Effect of Granting Retransfer Authority" shows us the rationale behind the move. As the Examiner.com "upgrade" no longer allows content providers to embed objects, I must refer you offsite for the complete document. But in the interests of discussing the report, I have also broken it up into numbered graphics (see slide show in left margin):
1. Here it is in black and white:
"...ATF believes the importation of these firearms, particularly the M1 carbine rifle and M-1911 pistol, poses a threat to public safety in the U.S."
This is the same rationale used in model-specific "assault weapons" bans--the type of gun is somehow deemed relevant, even though untold numbers of such firearms are already peaceably owned in this country, and even though no supporting evidence for this conclusion exists beyond agenda-promoting speculation.
2. We'll see an increase in imported firearms. Lots of them. So?
3. Prices will go down due to supply and demand. Their source? That noted threat to public safety in the U.S., the Civilian Marksmanship Program, authorized by Title 36 U. S. Code, 0701-40733 and a key supplier of "surplus military firearms, ammunition, parts and other items," provided you meet their eligibility requirements. The other apparent concern is the law does not empower ATF to collect "end user" information--so apparently any privately owned firearm with information not so collected is now a domestic threat? Maybe the solution is to "end the gun show loophole" and authorize licensing and registration?
(Excerpt) Read more at examiner.com ...
I want a WWII era 1911.
Military-issue 1911A1 pistols are not hard to find, but they’re expensive collector items now. Somehow I doubt that street gangs are salivating over the prospect of loading up on 60 yr old M1 rifles, M1 carbines, and .45 automatics. Most of the Korean re-imports I’ve seen have been used hard.
Yes, I know. I”ve seen quite a few at gun shows and at some places like Southern Ohio Guns. You are usually looking at staring over $1200 and go up from there.
Several companies (including Colt) make WW2-spec .45 autos now. Some of them are really close to the WW2 versions, and are much cheaper than the originals. There are also new-made M1 carbines and M1 Garands, although the Garands don’t seem to be that well-made and have some function problems.
They would just Love to ban and Confiscate all of our weapons – just have no doubt about that. Since they can't do that, they have to satisfy themselves with little petty actions that are below the radar screen.
Public satisfy threat? What doesn't pose a Public satisfy threat?
***During the Vietnam war, I transported hundreds of GI`s home from San Francisco Airport openly carrying AK47`S as war trophies.***
I thought the standard military rule for souvineers was...”SKS, Yes! AK No way!”
I met a man who had several Aks tagged for import while in the military in VN. They had to be special tagged for import.
When it was rumored he was shot down, someone stole his Aks, with import tags. He survived but came home AKless.
***The carbine fires a .30 calibre pistol round, ***
I believe it is the equivalent of a rimless 32/20 WCF round.
“Are you volunteering to let someone shoot at you with one? Howabout at 300 yards? Still LOL? ;)”
Only if I can shoot back with my M-1A......Yep, still laughing......
Nope. Cheaper than Dirt catalog has Russion made .30 carbine in bulk now.
My uncles brought back Model 1911s and an assortment of Japanese military rifles. To this day I wonder how they slipped them by. I suppose they just jammed them among their other stuff in their duffel bags.
Yea, I’m aware of that too. I’m a collector of WWII stuff. It’s more important to me to have an original 1911 rather than a repro. I’ve even seen some nice replicas of certain firearms, but I prefer to have an original in firing condition.
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