CONFIRMED: Court Did Rely on Oath Keeper Association to Take Baby

Oath Keepers ^ | October 11, 2010 | Stewart Rhodes

[Navy Patriot]

Ping.

[Jim Robinson]

I’m an Oath Keeper. They can take my babies when they pry them from my cold dead arms. Well, all three of us will be armed anyway (they’re grown men now).

[piytar]

Beyond the pale.

[BitWielder1]

I bet membership in Black Panthers would not cause any concerns at all.

[Marty62]

I read the part of the affidadit that was available.

I would suggest the “Oath Keepers” distant themselves from this guy.

[call meVeronica]

omg ping

[micmac]

Agreed, they seem like skanky people to me.

[Navy Patriot]

So the entire basis for taking the baby was:

1) Mr. Irish was associated with the Oath Keepers.

2) The cops had been out to his house and didn't like him much.

Sounds about right.

[WhistlingPastTheGraveyard]

Alex Jones’ site

Run away. Run far, far away.

[Grunthor]

“CONFIRMED: Court Did Rely on Oath Keeper Association to Take Baby”

I am a member of the Oath Keepers. I have a 15 y/o stepdaughter. They can try to take her but we do all shoot recreationally as well as hunt. Good luck with that.

[muawiyah]

Be a good idea for Oath Keepers to take the judge to task separately for accepting an affidavit in this sort of situation that mentions them.

Obviously they are not a militia and the people preparing the affidavit were in error.

Now, about the guy whipping up on his girlfriend and kids, she's still married to some other guy so technically the baby isn't his.

Sounds like she has some problems herself anyway.

[Dead Corpse]

So toss 'em under the bus?

What happens when it's your turn?

[sam_paine]

They have the resistance isolated and impotent and we don’t even recognize it.

Instead of Lexington Green or The Alamo, where neighbors assembled locally to make a larger statement, these events show that an isolate-and-fix targets strategy works perfectly for them.

They just pick us off one-by-one, as they paint each victim with “crazy” (Ruby Ridge,) “child abuser” (Waco,) “best for the child” (Elian Gonzales,) “polygamy” (west Texas....)

Mix in a few that are really bad dudes, and everyone gets tarred.

Meanwhile, nobody rallies to direct support....just a bunch of anonymous online rahrahs.

I don’t see a way around it. I thought the internet would enable more awareness, but it seems to me that a place like FR simply provides a release for anger that would otherwise motivate people to get involved.

Tea Party rallies? Has it really helped? Or has it just turned us into activists which take time off work to go make signs and protest just like they do.

[Jewbacca]

“I bet membership in Black Panthers would not cause any concerns at all.”

Not a fair comparison: Black Pathers would not be involved in raising the child; they would merely be “baby daddies” (if their identity is known at all) to avoid the cancelation of welfare payments.

[freedomwarrior998]

So the affidavit lists eleven distinct paragraphs to support the complaint, 9 of these paragraphs are redacted, and we are told they are "private" and "not-relevant" and we are supposed to believe that ONLY paragraph 7 is the reason that the children were taken away?

Really now?

When an un-redacted copy of the affidavit is shown, then I might believe the "OH NOEZ CONSPIWACY" claims. Until those paragraphs are shown, I have no reason to believe any of these assertions.

[Politicalmom]

Your arms will get tired carrying those big guys. :)

[muawiyah]

Sometimes the "target" really is a bad dude.

I kind of wonder if these two didn't meet each other at a group therapy session or something.

[PapaBear3625]

I bet membership in Black Panthers would not cause any concerns at all.

And membership in Nation of Islam would cause dismissal of any official who dared to mention it as a potential concern.

[Balding_Eagle]

More to the point, we also blacked out the parts unrelated to Oath Keepers and to gun ownership because my focus in this case is on the illegitimate listing of a father’s political affiliations and his gun ownership as a reason to take his daughter away from him and also away from her mother.