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India chooses Russian prototype for its fifth generation aircraft
Ria Novosti ^ | 11/10/2010 | Ilya Kramnik

Posted on 10/11/2010 10:50:00 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki

India chooses Russian prototype for its fifth generation aircraft

Fifth generation T-50 fighter

© RIA Novosti. Alexei Druzhinin

The joint development of a fifth generation fighter aircraft has moved to the fore of Russian-Indian cooperation. The issue was discussed during Russian Defense Minister Anatoly Serdyukov's recent visit to India. But an important question remains: Which fifth generation fighter are we taking about? The first prototype of the T-50 aircraft built under the PAK FA project is already flying in Russia.

Fifth generation fighters are increasingly becoming a symbol proving that a country has an independent aviation industry, capable of developing combat aircraft. Only two countries have done this so far - the United States has built its F-22 Raptor and is testing the F-35, while Russia is testing its T-50 fighter. India, which is actively developing its aviation industry, also seeks to develop a fifth generation fighter aircraft, but it cannot start from scratch. Cooperation with Russia is critical to India in this respect. In turn, Russia needs financial support to finish work on its fifth generation fighter.

Many experts see the T-50 as a very promising program that could become the foundation for a whole new family of combat aircraft, like the T-10 Sukhoi aircraft, which led to the Sukhoi Su-27 (NATO reporting name Flanker) and its various modifications.

Cost is the key difference between the T-50 fighter and the American F-22, the world's first fifth generation mass-produced combat fighter. The F-22 is far too expensive to become a popular model, and it suffers from the inevitable technical problems of a pioneer. This in addition to the congressional ban on exporting the fighter has made it impossible for the United States to further develop this system.

The second next-generation American fighter, the F-35, is currently undergoing tests. But the United States has run into problems with this program, too. The United States tried to build a cheaper fifth generation aircraft with the same capabilities as the F-22 but on a smaller scale. The new fighter was supposed to have a smaller combat load and range, slower flight speed and lower radar capabilities. However, combining all these features in one aircraft proved too difficult. Its price tag has surpassed $150 million, which is more than double the initial estimate. There is no indication that the price will go down, and U.S. designers have still not been able to recreate some of the F-22's features on the F-35, such as supersonic speeds without the use of an afterburner.

The designers have complicated their job by attempting to develop three different aircraft on the F-35 platform - a conventional fighter for the Air Force, a deck aircraft for the Navy and a STOVL (shorter take off and vertical landing) plane for the Marines. As a result, the project is delayed and over cost.

The designers of the T-50 have taken into account the experience of the United States with the F-22 and the problems with the F-35. Their T-50 program looks more realistic in comparison. They have decided not to pursue too many goals, instead concentrating on the existing, tried-and-tested program to develop a multi-purpose heavy aircraft with a solid safety margin. The T-50 program is bound to be a success, even if one element of the future fighter is delayed, as each element - be it the engines, onboard equipment or armaments - has a backup version.

It is no surprise that India has chosen the Russian aircraft as the prototype for its Fifth Generation Fighter Aircraft (FGFA) program. Now that the T-50 is already in the air and passing its tests with flying colors, India and Russia can confidently sign an agreement to develop a prototype on its basis.

RIA Novosti military correspondent Ilya Kramnik

The opinions expressed in this article are the author's and do not necessarily represent those of RIA Novosti.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: india; russia; sukhoi; t50

1 posted on 10/11/2010 10:50:04 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Great, our enemies will soon have a better fighter than we have. We’ll have to develop an updated version of the thach weave I guess.....


2 posted on 10/11/2010 10:59:49 AM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: sukhoi-30mki

F-22ski


3 posted on 10/11/2010 11:08:50 AM PDT by Tailback
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To: Old Teufel Hunden

Thank the union scum who work on most of the production lines of US defense manufacturers - they voted for the muslim. Let em eat cake.

Russia is a much smaller less of a threat to this USA than the 6 US TV networks.


4 posted on 10/11/2010 11:37:12 AM PDT by Frantzie (Imam Ob*m* & Democrats support the VICTORY MOSQUE & TV supports Imam)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Things are very dangerous, fighter-wise, just now. We are coasting on the extreme skill of our aircrews, and on electronic “cheats”. It gives us the illusion of invincibility.

We are slashing the very spending that creates these advantages. Combine that with the fact that our potential adversaries are buying all they can afford, and that most of our electronics are engineered and built there now.

This is a very bad trend, Obama and his revolutionary socialist party needs to go ASAP.


5 posted on 10/11/2010 11:39:41 AM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office)
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To: Frantzie

“Thank the union scum who work on most of the production lines of US defense manufacturers”

Baloney,,, we wouldn’t let India buy F-22s at any price. We won’t even sell them to Australia. We were trying to pawn off that Dog, the F-35, on them. India is a solid anti-islamic ally and they felt no alternative than to go to Russia to get real fighters.

India has to be prepared to meet Islamic threats from Sukhoi in the east, and Islamic F-15s and 16s in the west. Then there’s China in the north. They need the best they can get and have no use for a second rate fighter like the F-35.

Especially when we sell the Saudis F-22s, as we are certain to because we just sold them to the Israelis. Can you really count on Obama NOT to sell F-22s to the Saudis?

India needs what it needs,, and would happily buy F-22s. But the US government would never do it because it would upset PAKISTAN. Union worker in the USA had no hand in this.


6 posted on 10/11/2010 11:48:48 AM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

New picture? I have not seen that one before. Nice side perspective.

7 posted on 10/11/2010 12:11:22 PM PDT by spetznaz (Nuclear-tipped Ballistic Missiles: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol)
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To: Old Teufel Hunden
However, I've read on several defense related sites that this aircraft has a lot of problems, including the engines which aren't ready yet(I believe all the flight tests so far have been done with SU-27 engines). Also, it's stealthiness is rumored to be around a third of what the F-22 is. It's a major improvement on the SU-27/35, but nowhere near in the class of the F-22.
8 posted on 10/11/2010 12:31:42 PM PDT by aegiscg47
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To: James C. Bennett

ping


9 posted on 10/11/2010 1:04:14 PM PDT by spetznaz (Nuclear-tipped Ballistic Missiles: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol)
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To: DesertRhino

The Saudis own hime, the whitge hut and the six US TV Networks. We got here because of idiots who watch TV. TV is all about control.


10 posted on 10/11/2010 1:51:43 PM PDT by Frantzie (Imam Ob*m* & Democrats support the VICTORY MOSQUE & TV supports Imam)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

“Many experts see the T-50 as a very promising program that could become the foundation for a whole new family of combat aircraft...”

A whole new family of manned target drones.


11 posted on 10/11/2010 3:09:14 PM PDT by PLMerite (Fix the FR clock. It's time.)
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