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NRA Supports Pro-Gun Democrats, and Many Democrats Support the Second Amendment
The Volokh Conspiracy ^ | October 8, 2010 | David Kopel

Posted on 10/11/2010 8:12:25 AM PDT by neverdem

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This wouldn't be a topic if a bunch of RINOS were not bad news for the SECOND AMENDMENT!
1 posted on 10/11/2010 8:12:26 AM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem

lol..Democrats support harry ,nancy and obama...they could care less about guns..


2 posted on 10/11/2010 8:14:57 AM PDT by dalebert
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To: neverdem

John F Kerry supports 2A- for hunting.

How many of these “supporters” support 2A because of the Declaration of Independence’s mandate that we rise against a tyrannical government?


3 posted on 10/11/2010 8:19:29 AM PDT by DBrow
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To: neverdem

I understand their strategy, but certainly don’t agree with all of it.


4 posted on 10/11/2010 8:19:54 AM PDT by smokingfrog (Because you don't live near a bakery doesn't mean you have to go without cheesecake.)
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To: neverdem
The rat party, as a whole, would love to flush the 2nd amendment. The head rat said he's not going to try to ban guns BECAUSE HE DIDN'T HAVE THE VOTES. Meaning that if he did have the votes he'd do it in a heartbeat.
5 posted on 10/11/2010 8:20:54 AM PDT by JPG (Sarah Palin says: "Buck-up or get out of the truck.")
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To: neverdem
Caution!! Political strategy and thought ahead. May include rational arguments that conservative-or-else members disagree with. Be prepared for sudden "I TURNED IN MY LIFETIME MEMBERSHIP" comments, as well as flaming comments that say all Democrats want your guns.

Your best course of action is to turn around now and exit this thread.

6 posted on 10/11/2010 8:21:39 AM PDT by Dan Nunn (Support the NRA!)
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To: DBrow

There ARE pro-gun democrats — especially at the state level. Michigan is a “shall issue” state thanks in part to pro-gun democrats. The law that “allows” us to carry stinks with a whole list of forbidden zones, but without pro-gun democrats, we might still be a “may issue” state.


7 posted on 10/11/2010 8:22:09 AM PDT by Jerrybob
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To: neverdem

Just like they were Pro Life!


8 posted on 10/11/2010 8:22:11 AM PDT by sugarbabe
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To: neverdem

Just like they were Pro Life!


9 posted on 10/11/2010 8:22:17 AM PDT by sugarbabe
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To: neverdem
....SEE WHO THEY SUPPORT COME NOV.2ND
10 posted on 10/11/2010 8:23:35 AM PDT by Doogle (IT'S THAT TIME AGAIN....PLEASE donate, because it's the RIGHT thing to do)
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To: dalebert

Is the NRA ignorant?
An individual “pro-gun” democRat doesn’t mean diddly squat, when they will vote to further the agenda of Reid, Pelosi, and Obama.

Or are they ensuring their own survival by making sure there’s a need for the NRA? Do they need a foil to keep the donations and memberships flowing in?


11 posted on 10/11/2010 8:25:28 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: neverdem

“Many Democrats Support the Second Amendment”

http://www.johnspeedie.com/healy/crap.wav


12 posted on 10/11/2010 8:26:12 AM PDT by BenLurkin (This post is not a statement of fact. It is merely a personal opinion -- or humor -- or both.)
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To: dalebert

there are a few.. john dingell for one comes to mind.. very pro 2a. NRA rates him A+.. but that’s solely on actual gun rights votes.
the problem is he tows the party line too often, and those votes mean second hand problems for gun rights. voting for pelosi, or certain epa regs, or healthcare, or any other votes that have trickle down effects that expand government power that will lead to further gun regulation.

GoA rightly rates this guy with an F.


13 posted on 10/11/2010 8:27:33 AM PDT by absolootezer0 (2x divorced, tattooed, pierced, harley hatin, meghan mccain luvin', smoker and pit bull owner..what?)
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To: MrB

Im guessing it is profitable for both..Seems the NRA is more about money than anything else. Just like the politicians


14 posted on 10/11/2010 8:27:45 AM PDT by dalebert
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To: dalebert

Agreed. Democrats have demonstrated with Health Care that that when push comes to shove, they will put their party above not only their constituents’ wishes, but the well-being of their country, simply for political power.

With a large enough majority, most of these Dems would vote the party line to confiscate all firearms, and be damned to their constituents or the Constitution. The modern Democrat is either a socialist, or like Obama, a fascist (who believes in the central government telling a few privately owned big businesses how to operate).

The basic thought pattern of both is subordination of the individual to the will of the State, for the “greater good of all.” To be a Democrat and to vote pro-2nd Amendment is a fundamental contradiction. Therefore, I would bet that when the chips are down, a Democrat will vote the Party line.


15 posted on 10/11/2010 8:28:42 AM PDT by Cincinnatus.45-70 (What do DemocRats enjoy more than a truckload of dead babies? Unloading them with a pitchfork!)
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To: neverdem

The 2nd amendment does not exist in a hermetically sealed vacuum. It depends on the whole Constitution. The NRA has had a consistent policy of supporting pro-gun incumbents over pro-gun challengers regardless of party. This year, this policy is a mistake. All of our Constitutional rights are being threatened and the Democrats are mostly responsible. True, rinos are no better than Dems, but pro-gun Dems are worse than pro-gun Republicans. It’s the leadership that determines the agenda and a pro-gun Dems will vote for the Dem leadership by definition.
I pray that the NRAs efforts to support Dem candidates fails. But if the NRA is successful in preventing the Republicans from getting the House, there will be a postmortem analysis. The NRA will get a large share of the blame.
Why can’t the NRA poll its members and change this policy? If there is a pro-gun Republican vs a pro-gun Dem, support the Republican or at least remain neutral.


16 posted on 10/11/2010 8:29:58 AM PDT by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est)
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To: absolootezer0

I think a lot of people are fed up with NRA liberal endorsements.


17 posted on 10/11/2010 8:30:02 AM PDT by dalebert
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To: neverdem

Look, we all understand the NRA’s thinking on this. We just think it is stupid and short-sighted.


18 posted on 10/11/2010 8:30:37 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (is a Jim DeMint Republican. You might say he's a funDeMintalist conservative.)
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To: neverdem

I get what the NRA is saying, I just can’t go along with them and am not renewing my membership.

No Democrat should be supported in this current political environment.

The Obama Administration and the Democrats are now using the IRS to intimidate political opponents.

Not my America and I will not “fund” any group that stands with any Democrat. Period:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703735804575536370151720874.html?mod=WSJ_hpp_sections_opinion


19 posted on 10/11/2010 8:31:57 AM PDT by Noamie
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To: neverdem

Chuck Schumer says he supports the second amendment, “with reasonable restrictions.”


20 posted on 10/11/2010 8:33:25 AM PDT by mbynack (Retired USAF SMSgt)
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