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Well, the problem is that psychotherapists became dysfunctional in 1973 or whenever they took same-sex attraction out of the diagnostic manual and did so on purely political, not clinical, basis. Even those psychos who agreed with the decision admitted it was done purely on politics. One of them wrote a book about how the decsion was made.

So, while at one time it might have been reasonable to leave it to the psychos to decide what is dysfunctional, now that the psychos are mostly dysfunctional, I’d say it’s the province of normal folks like you and me to decide.

And yes, same-sex attraction is dysfunctional. It just is. You can put honey on a turd and it’s a honey-coated turd. I’m not a connoisseur of turds, but I’d say, just off the top of my head, that a honey-coated one is dysfunctional. A regular turd is not dysfunctional.

Well, the problem is that psychotherapists became dysfunctional in 1973 or whenever they took same-sex attraction out of the diagnostic manual and did so on purely political, not clinical, basis. Even those psychos who agreed with the decision admitted it was done purely on politics. One of them wrote a book about how the decsion was made.

So, while at one time it might have been reasonable to leave it to the psychos to decide what is dysfunctional, now that the psychos are mostly dysfunctional, I’d say it’s the province of normal folks like you and me to decide.

And yes, same-sex attraction is dysfunctional. It just is. You can put honey on a turd and it’s a honey-coated turd. I’m not a connoisseur of turds, but I’d say, just off the top of my head, that a honey-coated one is dysfunctional. A regular turd is not dysfunctional.

I’ll just concede that every word you say is true. But we are talking about a man running for governor veering WAY off the track to no purpose. He wins no one’s vote he doesn’t already have with this remark. It’s not like his state isn’t fully stocked with red meat economic issues on which he could get elected if he smartly addreses them. It’s just bad politics to suddenly begin playing pop psychologist in the late stages of a political campaign.

(And even if you and I decide homosexuality is dysfunctional what do you propose we do—round up the gays for re-education camp? And advocating such is gonna get someone elected governor of NY—??? Like it isn’t hard enough for conservatives to win in places like NY....

Never mind.)

And yes, same-sex attraction is dysfunctional. It just is. You can put honey on a turd and it’s a honey-coated turd. I’m not a connoisseur of turds, but I’d say, just off the top of my head, that a honey-coated one is dysfunctional. A regular turd is not dysfunctional.

Your way of expressing your reasoning made me laugh but what you wrote is true.

Can’t you make your point without all the 12 yr old crude talk?

Uh, guess not.

Bingo!

For many years homosexuality was considered a “mental disorder” until it was removed from diagnostic manuals for only political reasons.

The DSM or Diagnostic and Statistical Manual for mental disorders is the go to book for mental health. I use it often when in my studies involving criminal justice.

In 1973 it was removed as a mental disorder and listed as something minor involving sexual identity. In the 80s it was removed altogether.