Posted on 10/07/2010 2:59:29 PM PDT by neverdem
Two steps forward, three steps back.
Any support for any liberal is an endorsement of the enemy.
NRA support for rats is a support for the jackass....
What are the chances of it coming up during the lame duck session? If Pelosi is no longer speaker come January and Reid is no longer a senator...
The writer is myopic in that he claims the NRA learned it can’t trust ‘the establishment’.
I’ve got quotes from Chris Cox talking about how “very incumbent friendly” the NRA is when explaining why they back democrats. I’ve got other FR NRA-niacs talking about how when “both candidates are ‘equal’, we back the incumbent.” Again in the context of explaining why they back democrats.
If you are backing a democrat and they keep enough numbers to stay in control of the House and Senate, and keep Pelosi and Reid in power and keep the chairmanships in democrat control, that is HARDLY an EQUAL CHOICE.
ANd because of this myopic, zero-tolerance mentality policy that would be great if they just applied it to conservative incumbents, it proves they are totally comfortable supporting the establishment.
I keep hearing them say, “...but these liberals are pro gun”. Yeah, like Harry Reid. He’s a real champion of Conservative principles. /s
Doesn't mean they've earned my membership back - that won't happen while Wayne LaPierre and Chris Cox are still around - but most of us need to be fair about all this stuff all the time, don't we?
The House bill, which included the exemption, didn’t pass until June, and it was now very different from the Senate’s version of the bill. Senator Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) had his work cut out for him. Reid’s first attempt at a cloture vote failed in July. And now his second attempt over two months later has fallen dead as well.””
And when did the NRA endorsement for Angle come down? I must have missed it.
One would think. But lately it seems like a lot of folks here are ready to toss the NRA off a cliff, on 'principle'.
I'm all for having principles, and have some big ones of my own, but I don't see those 'principles' doing a whole lot of good when we're all sitting in the gulag.
Politics is an ugly game, complicated and dirty, and beyond the comprehension of a lot of folks here. Of course, that doesn't keep them from screaming "Off with their heads!" at every opportunity.
Not in the mood right now to thank the NRA for anything. They have been supporting dem candidates (over 50 at last count I think) and doing our country a disservice. They have their own agenda which does not coincide with the conservative agenda. I have let my membership lapse and will never rejoin.
I would much rather “Thank” the NRA for helping to defeat the party of RATs.
However, the NRA seems hell bent on allowing the party of RATs to stay in power. They support RATs where they should not and fail to support conservatives that would be more protective of our constitutional rights.
As such, I have a major problem with the NRA that seems to be irreconcilable.
The thing is the NRA wasn’t employing any type of grand scheming to save free speech and the Republic from the Dems.....they were throwing lock, stock, and barrel in with them to quell free speech for a political back scratching of their own. That it didn’t (yet) get through is not some reason to pat the NRA on the back because they were fully prepared and comfortable with it doing so once they got theirs.
Yes, the NRA has gotten too comfy with the “establishment” without a doubt. The leadership has been in place too long. They’ve moved from being a “single issue” organization to a “single right” entity.......all other rights are now seemingly on the table for them so long as they get a friendly deal to squawk to their members about. Sickening it has become........
What a bunch of malarkey... The dumb as a "box of rocks" NRA leadership cost the NRA prestige and members by slumming with the Democrats on Disclose.
If there is one iota of truth in this article it is the fact that Disclose failed to pass the Senate because the NRA found the backbone to stand against it. The NRA leadership could have accomplished the same with the Congress if they had opposed the bill regardless of the exemption. And in the process of doing so, the NRA would have gained honor and paying members.
Must be nice from that lofty seat you’re perched on.
It is rather ironic that you’ll attack FReepers personallly by accusing some of being devoid of comprehension,
“... beyond the comprehension of a lot of folks here.”
and dismissing our position while claiming that you’re the more “intelligent” NRA supporter.
shovel your manure somewhere else. There are a number of us whom supported the NRA for years, but I guess blind faith isn’t asking too much.
Joe Brower said:
“Of course, that doesn’t keep them from screaming “Off with their heads!” at every opportunity.”
You win the “Mr. Hyperbole” Award. We are the same individuals whom supported the NRA when they were in the right. I find it rather interesting, if not revealing, that you would level ad hominem attacks at Freepers who would not only disagree with your blind faith, but would accuse us of being idiots.
Perhaps you’re one of those liberals within the organization. I don’t know, but I’m thankful that there are a few former NRA members out there willing to task the organization to task for endorsing the enemy.
Makes perfect sense. . . NOT!
The bill will return in its ugliest form after the November election.
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There’s quite a bit of spin here, unfortunately...
Would the ‘clean’ bill without the exemption really have sailed smoothly through the Senate, with Snowe, Collins and others voting against their best interests? (Even liberal-leaning Republicans benefit greatly from corporate contributions, remember). There would have been immense pressure on them from their party to vote no, as well. So, it’s just pure speculation to say otherwise.
Further, in the alternative, would the House compromise bill with the NRA exemption have passed in the Senate? The writer seems to imply so, but he skates over the fact that, despite the Libs and Obama desperately wanting Disclose, this would have meant that a number of anti-gun Libs in the Senate would have had to vote for a NRA exemption. When you consider the heat that they would have faced from the progressives, it seems unlikely they would have garnered the votes for this.
The NRA (and some of us) realize that politics is a dirty, messy, sausage-making business.
It is not for the pure....never was....never will be.
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