[kiryandil]

I think the round in the pipe question is a useless approach here, simply because any firearm [or toy for that matter] pointed at a cop is grounds for gettin shot...

This is true.

BUT! Metro, and Metro's defenders, including Moonman62, have taken that fact as carte blanche to pretend that Erik Scott's gun WAS loaded.

I'm not going to let them get away with it any more.

You'll notice that Moonpie simply won't answer the question or respond to it in any way - because if it was unloaded, then Erik Scott KNEW it was unloaded, and what he was doing was just handing over a harmless piece of hardware, as ordered. And Mosher committed manslaughter - shooting an unarmed man down like a dog.

Furthermore, unless there was an objective observer to watch as Scott's gun was checked for a "round in the pipe", it must be presumed that Metro is willing to lie about it.

[Gilbo_3]

yer right that we shouldnt let the cops use the 'fact' that it was loaded to show his 'intent' to take hostages and kill 742 people in the parking lot w/o a reload...

an unloaded weapon does speak to his frame of mind in that regard...

i merely suggested that the argument was and is falling on deaf ears...just as the 2-6 second timeline for compliance to orders from a servant...

from day one though, the fact that cops were there, and in such force over one guy is mindbogglin...