“As soon as Mosher approached Scott, Scott reached for his gun, failed to follow any commands, and eventually pointed the gun at Mosher, which any CCW holder should know not to do if he’s in his right mind.”
Nope. Didn’t happen. How do I know? Because in the two seconds from the first word to shooting, there wasn’t TIME for Scott to pull his holster out and “eventually” point the gun at the cop. In two seconds, at best Scott could get the holster into his hand, nothing more. And by that time, Mosher’s brain had already told his finger to contract.
TWO SECONDS!
Failed to follow commands? If I start giving you orders, how long will it take for you to comply? Do you wait for me to finish giving orders? Most people would. That is how we handle real life - if someone is giving us instructions, we don’t start obeying while they are still talking. Not in TWO SECONDS!
First word to shot: TWO SECONDS.
If I shout “Get down on the ground! Right now!”, I just used TWO SECONDS. And Mosher fired at the second exclamation mark. That means he made the firing decision at the first exclamation mark.
If you aren’t expecting it, how long does it take you to register that A) Someone is a cop, B) they are talking to YOU, and C) comply with an order to get on the ground? It would take me two seconds or more to get on the ground even if I anticipated the cops command.
“Everything Scott did reinforced everything the dispatchers told the officers on the scene about Scott: that he was armed, threatening, and under the influence of drugs. That was WHAT MOSHER’S EYES SAW! “
Horseshit! SIX SECONDS before they shot Scott, they didn’t know he was the suspect. Scott was pointed out to them. With 4 seconds left, Mosher touches Scott. Scott turns and checks his gun - like a good CCW holder would. Scott now has 2 seconds to live. The cops start giving him commands - more than one cop, since it isn’t possible to say everything that was on the tape in 2 seconds. Physical evidence says those who claim multiple cops were giving commands were right. Before the commands were finished, Mosher fired.
He never gave Scott a chance to comply.
“Based on what Mosher knew, Scott was just as likely to take a bystander as a shield and start shooting if he was approached with your method of courageous restraint and politeness.”
Nope. Scott was leaving quietly. NO SIGN of abnormal behavior. Mosher acted on what he thought he knew, rather than what his eyes told him.
NO ONE seeing Scott without first being prejudiced by the Costco employees considered him any kind of threat. And that is why the Costco employees may be liable.
“Scott was just as likely to take a bystander as a shield and start shooting if he was approached with your method of courageous restraint and politeness.”
With two armed cops behind him? He wouldn’t do it for long, would he!
“here was conflicting witness testimony. However, after six days of testimony, the jury unanimously decided in less than two hours that the shooting was justified. I’ll leave it to you to determine which witnesses they found the most credible.”
One of my points is you ALWAYS make the physical evidence primary. Scott’s gun, in a holster with the hammer down. Two seconds from first word to first bullet. Those are FACTS. We have the photos. We have the recordings.
“IF you ever confirm your time line, then I will be interested in your theories derived from it. “
Time to get interested, then. The time line is the one presented during day 2 at the inquest.
[Honesty Disclaimer]: That is what they showed on a moving display with a time hack for each sentence. I tried to follow the tape, and got about twice that...12 seconds. As garbled as the tape was, I have to guess that the time line the inquest displayed in minutes and seconds was accurate - otherwise, why add a distorted time line? When I reviewed the full tape, my stopwatch regularly varied from the time line shown at the side...maybe due to their playback machine? At some points it seemed to freeze up for 10-15 seconds.
yer beatin yer head against a wall Sir...theres a disconnect, either naive or evil, that this shoot was good, because a one sided inquest says so...
Really? They were standing in Mosher's line of fire?
[Honesty Disclaimer]: That is what they showed on a moving display with a time hack for each sentence. I tried to follow the tape, and got about twice that...12 seconds. As garbled as the tape was, I have to guess that the time line the inquest displayed in minutes and seconds was accurate - otherwise, why add a distorted time line? When I reviewed the full tape, my stopwatch regularly varied from the time line shown at the side...maybe due to their playback machine? At some points it seemed to freeze up for 10-15 seconds.
Are you saying you're getting twelve seconds instead of six? And are you using a tape of the inquest or something available online? A transcript of the inquest would be nice, if one can be found.