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To: vertolet888
He's right in one way. Once the USSR collapsed (i.e. we won the cold war) the liberal democrats could start pushing their social engineering policies full steam. They used the collapse of the USSR as 1) evidence that the USSR was never as big a threat as the Republicans and military had made it out to be, and 2) that there no longer was any need to invest in the military, and the ‘peace dividend’ could be used for social programs.

When the first President Bush was running for reelection against Clinton he said something that can be paraphrased as: ‘The collapse of the USSR doesn't mean the world is now safe. The vacuum created by the collapse of the USSR in some ways led us to a new kind of danger and instability that requires more leadership and vigilance, not less’. Of course, the country didn't listen and bought into the ‘it's the economy stupid’ mantra of the Clinton campaign. The liberal press saw their opportunity, and helped push Clinton across the finish line (they painted a much worse picture of the economy than was true, and ignored a recovery that was underway, and subsequently credited to Clinton). Of course Ross Perot didn't help either.

Bush senior was right. The post-USSR period was a crucial one, and we wound up with a President who ignored foreign policy, and who after recovering from the disaster that was the Hillarycare attempt, rode the wave of the dot com economy to broad popularity. When we should have been even more focused on the direction the world would take after the collapse of the USSR, we ignored it. We woke up only briefly after 9/11.

10 posted on 10/04/2010 4:05:06 AM PDT by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: pieceofthepuzzle

We didn’t win the cold war. If we had we wouldn’t have the Socialistic mess we have today. The social engineering here,the positive propaganda for Socialism,Communism,Fascism,or whatever it is, was going on long before the Communist collapse in the USSR. That helped get us into this mess. Are we to believe that the Communists suddenly gave up their ideology?

This started a long time ago,it didn’t happen in the past twenty or thirty years.


14 posted on 10/04/2010 4:40:02 AM PDT by FreeDeerHawk
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To: pieceofthepuzzle
I beg your pardon, but at the end of the first gulf war, it was GHW Bush who proclaimed the New World Order, and was all for the "peace dividend". That's when the reductions in force started, I remember it well.

While the liberal democrats are more destructive, the Republicans can share in plenty of the blame. They may have temporarily slowed down the expansion of gov't post-1994, but expand, it did. They talk a good fight, but when it comes to delivering....oh, well.

31 posted on 10/04/2010 6:46:25 AM PDT by FlyVet (")
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