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BTW: Both Kosher and Halal caracasses had a lot of petechial hemorrhages in the meat, probably agonal processes.

Hmmmm?

We had a thread here on FR where a Kosher butcher said that when properly done (razor sharp knife, smooth draw across the throat, and avoiding having the point of the knife touch the animal) the animal would bleed out with no signs of distress, indeed, it wouldn't stop chewing a mouthful of grain as it died.

That doesn't sound even vaguely like an "agonal processes" to me.

[struwwelpeter]

...when properly done (razor sharp knife, smooth draw across the throat, and avoiding having the point of the knife touch the animal) the animal would bleed out with no signs of distress, indeed, it wouldn't stop chewing a mouthful of grain as it died.

Wow, I'd like to have seen that. If I had a nickle for every bad stick and had to pay ten bucks for every good stick I witnessed, I'd probably be a rich man.

It's part of the process, not a big deal, and occurs in non-ritually slaughtered animals. New Zealand, Sweden, Iceland, and Norway banned ritual slaughter without prior stunning, but nowadays with the BSE hazard, pneumatic stunners that send bovine brain tissue throughout the circulatory system are definitely counterproductive.

Stress, regardless of what prayer was muttered before slaughter, is more important. I'm not a Temple Grandin fan (though I met her once and I probably look more like Julia Ormond than she does), but she has a few good points.