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FIRE SAFETY: Palo Alto Fire Officials Propose Mandating Modern Alarms [VIDEO]
KTVU Oakland/San Francisco ^ | September 29, 2010 | Maureen Naylor

Posted on 09/30/2010 8:26:22 PM PDT by Go_Raiders

Video at the link above. Palo Alto looks to become second Bay Area city to mandate photoelectric technology for smoke alarms in new residential construction, remodels and rental housing when required by State Law.

Acting Fire Marshal Gordon Simpkinson is interviewed as National Fire Prevention Week (Oct. 3 through 9) approaches.

Ionization smoke alarms often fail to provide adequate warning of smoldering fires, and are far more likely to be disabled by residents due to nuisance alarms. Residents are urged to check existing alarms and replace them if they are ionization type. Any alarm more than 10 years old should be replaced to insure reliable operation.

Read more at: http://www.cityofpaloalto.org/fire


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: firesafety; smokealarms
Just to set the record straight - No, I do not make money off of smoke alarms. I believe that the smoke alarm industry has failed to adequately inform consumers about the defects of ionization alarms, and I am hoping that all Freepers and their families protect themselves with an alarm that will actually give the best chance of surviving a smoldering house fire.

If you like dual sensor alarms, that's great. Just make sure you install them away from kitchens and bathrooms so you don't get nuisance alarms.

1 posted on 09/30/2010 8:26:27 PM PDT by Go_Raiders
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To: Go_Raiders
Are you proposing that government at ANY level can set requirements on whether or not we have smoke detectors in our homes?

/johnny

2 posted on 09/30/2010 8:31:48 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

They do in my state, can’t sell a house without both smoke detector types and a carbon monoxide detector - because home buyers are apparently simpletons that can’t buy their own detectors....


3 posted on 09/30/2010 8:49:13 PM PDT by libertarian27 (Ingsoc: Department of Life, Department of Liberty, Department of Happiness)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Under the Constitution, I don’t believe the Federal Government has the authority to require it anywhere other than Federal property. The Federal Government does have some regulatory authority over manufacture and distribution of smoke alarms as that is interstate commerce.

State Laws allow considerable authority over new construction and rental housing. In most States there are also laws that require smoke alarms where title is transferred. My opinion is that this is a legitimate power of State Government under the 10th amendment of the Constitution.

Local Goverments typically enforce State Law. In the case of Palo Alto, they are modifying what smoke alarms are considered as satisfying the State Law, and not requiring alarms in areas previously left unregulated by the State.

Palo Alto is not mandating anything for existing owner occupied dwellings, but they are proposing that if a smoke alarm is going to be forced upon a property owner by the State, that the alarm should be one that actually does what it claims it can do.

Of course, once the building is occupied, the owner is free to make whatever choice he desires, whether that choice well-informed or not.


4 posted on 09/30/2010 8:52:32 PM PDT by Go_Raiders (The wrong smoke detector might just kill you - http://www.theworldfiresafetyfoundation.org)
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To: Go_Raiders
Under the Constitution, I don’t believe the Federal Government has the authority to require it anywhere other than Federal property.

Nice post. I'd add, though, that federal courts have ruled that the federal government - in any of its capacities - can satisfy its jurisdictional due diligence by merely presuming it has authority to act in any given situation.

Those same courts have ruled that it is then upon the targets of government action to prove that the government was wrong in its jurisidictional presumption.

Oh, and those federal courts have also ruled that the moment you step into one of them, your presence indicates your acceptance of federal jurisdiction.

See, Catch 22 wasn't good enough for the feds. They had to Catch 22 Catch 22, kind of like Catch 22 Squared.

But actually, it's Catch 22 Cubed, because they also ruled they didn't have to tell you about any of their presumptions, or their rulings about presumptions, or basically anything else.

And if they do admit it in court, they've ruled that its perfectly legal to seal the court record.

So that makes Catch 22 to the Fourth Power.

And we haven't even started talking about treaties yet.

5 posted on 10/01/2010 12:08:54 AM PDT by Talisker (When you find a turtle on top of a fence post, you can be damn sure it didn't get there on its own.)
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