Posted on 09/29/2010 8:40:24 PM PDT by Undocumented_capitalist
(09-29) 14:33 PDT Washington - -- Hoping to arrest an ominous slide in two recent polls, California U.S. Senate candidate Carly Fiorina went on a full-scale attack against three-term incumbent Barbara Boxer as a tax-and-spend failure in a radio debate today in Pasadena, while Boxer painted Fiorina as an anti-environmental extremist out of sync with state voters.
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If I was running against her I would repeat "Are you Californians better off today than when Boxer first became senator ?"
good point
i haven’t heard any of these ads ?
they must be played in larger markets.
i agree sounds bad.
Good opener, but you need to highlight her NUMEROUS transgressions, like bouncing 420 checks at the House Bank. The worlds champion bad check writer in DC history. ;-)
Then nail her on tax increases.
At my age, Carly is a Babe! I can imagine Carly right at home in the English Parliament Q&A pressure cooker ... Barbara catBox not so much.
H-P survival required layoffs. It was a business decision which every good CEO has to make. China offered to make the products at significant lower cost. As one wearing CEO hat, Fiorina had little choice. H-P survived and came through stronger from the worst slump in electronics.
This argument is a red herring anyway. Because every item an American buys which is made in China has in essence exported jobs to China. If you look through your own home you will find scores of made in China stuff. In essence you have exported jobs to China and so has every Wal-Mart shopper.
If you drive a Japanese or Korean car, you have exported jobs to Japan & S.Korea. Even if the car is assembled in US, the engineering work was done in Japan/Korea and even worse the profits go back to Japan & Korea.
I agree, but she needs to be able to respond to it clearly and susinctly instead of running from it like it’s a steaming pile of you know what.
“HP’s survival in the marketplace demanded decisive action. Accordingly, a number of low-paying, low-tech jobs were transferred to off-shore suppliers.”
I have read lots of misinformed posters and trolls spread alot of BS about the HP-Compaq merger.
Guess who taught the Chinese how to make computers to compete against HP. Probably HP. The problem with corporations is they tend to teach the Chinese and Indians how to catch up with the US thinking they will limit themselves to manufacturing only. Once the Chinese and Indians reach a technical level, then the CEO’s will proclaim that they cannot keep the factory in the US primarily due to high US labor costs. Even if the gov lowers taxes and eliminates regs it will not replace the lucrative profits of lower labor costs. Result is China’s military will gain the technology to make weapons and the Chinese gain the knowledge to make lower cost knock off of our high tech products and eat our lunch, while they will erect trade barriers for our goods and investments in their country. The socialist Dems are not our friend, neither are CEO’s. Ask a businessman where he would draw the line on doing business with Communist China a potential enemy of the US. He will be very uncomfortable with answering the questions on where his priorities (loyalties) will lie. In other words American CEO’s has the loyalty equivalent to an American Communist and Muslim and we don’t need them in our society if we want to survive as a nation in the 21st Century.
Her terrible performance as HP CEO should have eliminated Fiorina from even being considered.
I still remember Boxer’s comment verbatim.....” Oh I’m so embarrassed. I really trusted that bank!! “
Good God in heaven!
why isn’t she getting wacked with that scandal ?
it time to go nuclear on her since she is weak .
Republicans almost never seem to go for the jugular. How I miss the days when we had a spine.
I could write 10 ads that would paint Boxer as a near moron, and a thief, but nobody would use it.
What is the basis for thinking that US labor is - or should be - immune to international competition? Has an alien bestowed a magical dispensation that all the other nations of the world are bound to acknowledge and respect?
Maybe there are noble American businessmen who bullheadedly are determined to keep high cost labor to the detriment of their company’s ability to survive, long term. Well, rotsa ruck to them.
I saw this situation first hand. I worked for a privately owned company who was a leader in design and manufacture of heavy machinery.
During the 1970’s company sales were down which caused severe financial strains for the owners. So here comes an offer from Chinese Gov’t that they would pay several million dollars for purchase of all engineering knowhow.
That flow of funds probably saved the company from going under. The Chinese were shrewed in purchasing engineering knowhow developed over 50 years of R&D. It is not that the owners of company were anti-American or anti-workers. It was a choice between survival or going under.
You also have to remember that Americans do not have the monopoly on technical smarts. In the age of jet planes and World Wide internet, it is impossible to build a wall around the United States. If we did that, a pair of shoes will cost you $129 instead of $29.
I don’t think you are advocating stopping our foreign trade.
So there is little choice but to live with foreign competition. Low skilled manufacturing jobs will get increasingly harder to retain in US, so long as the disparity in worker wages exist. But wages are rising in all countries. For example many Japanese companies have set up manufacturing plants in other low labor cost Asian countries since wages in Japan are much higher.
Where else but Bell, Ca could a mayor collect $800K annually and travel under the radar? Well, almost anywhere in this state, though not quite as egregiously. Don't fret too much for the 'retired' guy down the street with a tough of grey as he will likely collect 90+% of his salary for the rest of his life (not to mention benefits) if he spent any time working for the state.
I don't think this public abuse of the system is sustainable but certain politicians will campaign on it to garner votes. Now THAT is sustainable!
California is possibly beyond the tipping point- those on the dole vs those who must pay for it. If that's the case, no Republican will get elected to any office of significance to change this. Schwartzenneger was a fluke.
The entrenched statists and domestic socialists have seen to bankrupting one of the most abundant and beautiful states in the Union. Businesses are boarded-up throughout our cities, homes lie vacant on our streets, and trees die of thirst in our orchards. Yet, our legislature can't seem to find a way to cut government expenses and balance a budget, much less do anything about these problems.
Boxer and Brown (B+B) will represent the public unions, and those who rely on tax revenues to survive. Whitman and Fiorina are private-sector entreprenuers and will represent businesses who produce those things that create wealth, which is taxed, and funds the group that B+B wish to represent.
Businesses are hurting and the state responds with furloughs? Hardly enough to close the budget gap, so for anyone doing business in this state, tax increases will be coming (as cuts apparently can't be made) and will come harder. By that, I mean you'll see new taxes and new collection methods to ensure compliance. Example: VAT taxes, Service taxes, etc. Hire a gardner? Remit 20% of any payment for said service to the state.
After B+B win in November, I'll just wait for the state to devolve into the statist/socialist police state that is inevitable. East Germany and Cuba will have nothing on us. "Papers please!" will become rudimentary.
This is off-topic, but it recently occurred to me that Carly Fiorina’s name, when pronounced normally, sounds similar to how The Governator pronounces California (Kahleefornyuh).
I realize this is bizarre, stupid, and irrelevant, but I just had to share.
:^)
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