Posted on 09/29/2010 11:19:14 AM PDT by Frantzie
NEW JERSEY (WPIX) — A freshman at Rutgers University is believed to have committed suicide after he was secretly taped by two other students during a sexual encounter, police said. The video was allegedly broadcast on the internet.
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No one is excusing what the video taping creeps did!
Sheesh. No mental acuity.
“If you think throughout history illicit sex was perfectly acceptable and as common as now, you are fooling yourself or trying to fool others.”
Caligula? Get it? Your morality is not the historical norm?
It’s getting crazy. Standing up for morality means one is now a member of the Taliban, a Victorian, and Caligula himself.
Ultimately it is their life and we all live in the same society. We can do our best, but must be prepared for the worst. Which I beleive is the case with the victim and his family in this case
It’s interesting that there is an upswing now in young people - more pro-life, and more wanting to wait until marriage.
Furtiveness is a thing of the past. You're talking about a country where it's now fashionable to be gay. Look at the all the celebs doing same-sex kissing in public. It's almost a fetish now.
Where did I state that it did?
but it seems that many here would rather discuss the victim and his sins.
Because his sin is what gave them power over him. And they used it. And that is the whole point. Immoral behavior DOES hurt people. It's why blackmail works. It's why people hide what they do. Morality never hurt anyone. But you wouldn't know it by reading this thread. Read again some of the remarks on the thread. You'd think being moral, upright and clean was a death sentence when it is the exact opposite.
Who would that be?
I pretty much see one group saying all these young people did wrong things that played a part in this, and another group saying the deceased had no part in his own suicide, and only his room mate and his room mate's girl friend did something wrong.
You point out who it is that is blaming only the decedent, and we will examine their posting history to see if it matches your assertion.
Well, the way we always stopped it. First by people like you not telling us to “get over it” and acting like it is desirable for young people to live like feral animals.
Second by providing a family for your children that protects them. Doesn’t allow dating at age 12, watches over the kids, knows what they do, tells them what not to do and what will happen if they do it. Meeting their dates and letting them know a man is in the house watching. Making them come home sober at a reasonable hour and knowing where they go. Waiting up!! WAITING UP every time your child goes out with the opposite sex. Monitoring their friends and activities.
Raising kids requires much of a parent that is a bit like a guard, intuition and watchfulness.
And BTW doing that does not result in sluts as someone said. It results i healthy kids who are relieved they are being watched as they know they are loved and treasured.
I can’t give you a lifetime of what we do to raise kids who dont get abused by the people around them. I just can’t but I know it is possible to do. I did it just like my parents and theirs. My kids all thank me now as they do the same with their kids.
Chastity among women has always been valued, for one thing. In every monotheistic culture and some that weren’t or aren’t sex outside of marriage has been frowned upon. I don’t mean in each and every spot on the globe since the dawn of time.
No. Some are repentant sinners. The rest are unrepentant sinners.
Right, but that sin could have been any sin. Making the victim accountable for being victimized is just wrong.
Again I really don't see where anyone is questioning the value of moral behavior or justifying his acts...it is not necessay.
You know, if you are going to dicuss my grannie, it would be polite to ping me.
And Granny only got married once - Grandad is buried in Arlington Cemetery.
It's a truism, like extramarital sex being a sin.
You can just repeat it over and over with various adjectives thrown in and use it to rhetorically beat someone until they just get tired of trying to have a conversation and leave. Then you can feel like you won something.
That’s because pointing out morality and how far this country has fallen makes people uncomfortable.
No dear, I didn't say that religion should be "If it feels good, do it." And I didn't say that pointing out homosexual behavior is wrong, I despise homosexuality. But I am extremely distressed at the lying and bullying on this thread by supposed Christians, the lack of compassion that is being displayed for a confused and misguided teenager who made horrific mistakes, and the self-righteous preaching against posters supposedly promoting homosexuality when nobody here has done any such thing. I believe the way you and a few others have conducted yourselves on this thread reflects badly on Christians and this site that I love.... it's very distressing.
Who knows which is which?
I know you’re all pro-homo and stuff, but if the guy was having gay sex in my dorm room, I would want to at least embarrass him into not doing it. So if he kills himself, is that my fault?
I don’t ping because if you are interested, you will see my post.
I don’t think Granddaddy would be proud of you now. Telling us to “get over it”. Believe it or not, we, when things happen, love our children and cope and make the best of it. But we are not casual about sex as you seem to be.
We all know it happens and in the best of families. But the lightness of your “get over it” as if the sexual revolution has been kind to kids and adults is making trivial what has caused much much misery in our world.
And you must keep grannie’s secret a secret. She married, she did the right thing. She didn’t act like what we see now. It was a different time.
“Raising kids requires much of a parent that is a bit like a guard, intuition and watchfulness”
Agree. Hard work, but I do my best.
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