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2 Rutgers Freshmen Charged Making Sex Tape Of Student (The young man killed himself)
PIX Channel 11 NJ ^ | 9-29-2010 | ARTHUR CHI'EN and SHELLEY NG

Posted on 09/29/2010 11:19:14 AM PDT by Frantzie

NEW JERSEY (WPIX) — A freshman at Rutgers University is believed to have committed suicide after he was secretly taped by two other students during a sexual encounter, police said. The video was allegedly broadcast on the internet.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; US: New Jersey
KEYWORDS: bullying; consequences; crime; homosexualagenda; invasionofprivacy; privacyrights; richpunks; rutger; rutgerscriminals; selfdestruction; sexualharassment; suicide; video; wiretapping
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To: DJ MacWoW
I am not the one expecting them to not have sex.

That was simply a response to your stated expectation that they would not have sex but no expectation of keeping an agreement. It is not an endorsement of having sex. We come full circle to the reading comprehension thing again.

321 posted on 09/29/2010 5:46:50 PM PDT by TigersEye (Defend liberty. Destroy socialism.)
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To: DJ MacWoW
They want to argue and accuse

You were the one who stated that he (or anyone else) did not, and could not, have the expectation of privacy.

I clearly discredited that notion.

322 posted on 09/29/2010 5:47:41 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (If America falls, darkness will cover the face of the earth for a thousand years)
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To: DJ MacWoW
They don’t want to discuss anything. They want to argue and accuse. They are simply looking for a fight.

Projection.

323 posted on 09/29/2010 5:47:54 PM PDT by TigersEye (Defend liberty. Destroy socialism.)
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To: Shethink13

The law says it, not me.


324 posted on 09/29/2010 5:48:50 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (If America falls, darkness will cover the face of the earth for a thousand years)
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To: Balding_Eagle

No. You didn’t.


325 posted on 09/29/2010 5:50:24 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: TigersEye

No. You have made an accusation in Post 315. I have yet to see you back that up with facts. Otherwise, your intent is to simply insult, argue and falsely accuse.


326 posted on 09/29/2010 5:52:07 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: Balding_Eagle
The law says it, not me. What law is that? Recite it for me word for word.
327 posted on 09/29/2010 5:53:39 PM PDT by Shethink13
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To: Balding_Eagle
Btw, where are the quotes where you claim I excused the two taping the young man?

You discredited nothing. You only argued and accused.

328 posted on 09/29/2010 5:54:08 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: TigersEye
That was simply a response to your stated expectation that they would not have sex but no expectation of keeping an agreement. It is not an endorsement of having sex.

Nope. In 315 you called me a liar and cited my posting history. Back that up with quotes.

329 posted on 09/29/2010 5:57:34 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: Shethink13
What law is that? Recite it for me word for word.

LOL! Don't demean yourself by using the tactics of Liberals.

I believe the law is referenced in the original article, or at least in one or more of the articles about this situation. You can easily find it for yourself, a very conservative endevor.

330 posted on 09/29/2010 6:02:12 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (If America falls, darkness will cover the face of the earth for a thousand years)
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To: DJ MacWoW; Shethink13; Balding_Eagle; TigersEye

This was one room. Not an apartment, not a suite (AFAIK), not a two bedroom place. The understanding was apparently a spoken spur of the moment agreement.

That said, the creeps who taped the young man were creeps. Disgusting. They probably committed a crime (I don’t know the local statues of course) and if so, they should face whatever legal issues they need to face. They also did wrong morally and will face guilt and shame and should.

Another point is that hedonism is a poor basis for human civilization. If young people are taught “you are animals are are not expected to control you sex implulse, no one can” - than many will not even try. Now that young people are taught “If you have one gay thought or desire (and here, watch/read this gay porn and see if you like it), that means you are gay and cannot change - and, want to meet some guys at my place, they can show you the ropes?” - naturally many young people will experiment, and become confused about their sexual orientation.

Sex without marriage (what to speak of homosexual acts) is not without great risk; it is not benign, does not cause happy or stable personal lives; nor when accepted by society does it create stable families and society.

“If it feels good, do it” was a slogan started in the 60s. Apparently a lot of people on FR still believe in that lie.


331 posted on 09/29/2010 6:02:51 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point.)
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To: DJ MacWoW

I’ve pointed out the law. you may want to ignore the law, OK, you can.

The two students either ignored the law as you have, or were ignorant of it.

Unlike you, who can run off in denial shouting lalalalalala, they will probably end up in prison, and with a civil judgement that will trail them for decades.


332 posted on 09/29/2010 6:08:39 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (If America falls, darkness will cover the face of the earth for a thousand years)
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To: DJ MacWoW
Here is the quote again one last time.

...trying to justify that you think college sexcapades are fine but...

You put words in my mouth.

333 posted on 09/29/2010 6:12:28 PM PDT by TigersEye (Defend liberty. Destroy socialism.)
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To: Balding_Eagle
I believe the law is referenced in the original article, or at least in one or more of the articles about this situation. You can easily find it for yourself, a very conservative endevor.

A law stating that a student sharing a dorm room with another student has a reasonable expectation of privacy to have sex in that room is referenced in the original article?

As I suspected, you are making it up as you go along...

Since when is it a liberal tactic to request facts to back up a ludicrous statement?

334 posted on 09/29/2010 6:17:33 PM PDT by Shethink13
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To: Balding_Eagle; Shethink13
I’ve pointed out the law.

The law speaks to taping someone without their knowledge or consent. It is clearly illegal.

What's the law about expecting privacy in a shared dorm room?

Unlike you, who can run off in denial shouting lalalalalala, they will probably end up in prison,

You didn't check my posting history, did you?

Post 269

Didn't read the story? If convicted they could do 5 years.

Post 276

Then they didn’t read the story as it’s states the penalty if convicted is 5 years. Then of course their reputations are deservedly shot. Who’d trust them now?

335 posted on 09/29/2010 6:19:09 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: DJ MacWoW

Depression, anxiety, paranoia, are real mental illnesses, no? Are you a DJ or a DR since you seem to make diagnosis up? A person who has been put in a life altering situation, because of two malicious people, may have panicked. If these two idiots didn’t do such a hateful thing (hate crime another charge) this man would not have been put into this situation and be alive today. Their actions caused a reaction which holds them responsible for the result. Don’t start blaming the victim.


336 posted on 09/29/2010 6:20:34 PM PDT by jerseyrocks
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To: Shethink13

How many people were in the room when this incident happened?


337 posted on 09/29/2010 6:23:27 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (If America falls, darkness will cover the face of the earth for a thousand years)
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To: TigersEye
Here is the quote again one last time.

...trying to justify that you think college sexcapades are fine but...

You put words in my mouth.

Your words: Post 296 :I am not the one expecting them to not have sex.

Tell me where that makes me a liar. And, one last time? This is the first time that you quoted it.

338 posted on 09/29/2010 6:24:06 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: jerseyrocks

Why are you ignoring the elephant in the room? Two elephants, actually.

1. Sex in a dorm. Not actually a good use of a dorm room (don’t give me the argumment that “everyone does it”).

2. Homosexuals are by definition suffering from psychological disorder.

Of course the creeps who tapes him were utterly wrong, morally and legally. No one is excusing them. But the young man who committed suicide didn’t have to die, and didn’t have to engage in homosexual acts.

This does not excuse the creeps, it’s just that he plays a part in all this as well. He is not a neutral non-actor.


339 posted on 09/29/2010 6:27:31 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point.)
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To: MrEdd

You use the words might or may have, which means they didn’t know the victim very well or they would have known what WAS going to happen. Emotional harm can be worse then physical harm to some, are you aware of that? Any harm inflicted on someone deserves punishment. What if this malice act committed by these two resulted in this kid not taking his life but going into the school and taking others’ lives. This type of bullying, embarrassing, “hurting feelings”, needs to stop. The only way to ensure it will not happen again is to hand down a harsh sentence.


340 posted on 09/29/2010 6:30:44 PM PDT by jerseyrocks
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