Government school teacher PING!
The Feds should get out of education entirely.
Leave it to the local communities to fund and manage their own districts.
ping
Engineers in China.....make like 1K one hundred a year....teachers make 1K.......just a guess.
I’ve been saying for years that the problem with public education is NOT a lack of funding. And a lot of the decisions made regarding public schools frequently benefit teachers’ unions at the expense of the students.
As the son of a retired high school teacher, I have a lot of inside perspective on the subject. My dad was ready to retire probably ten years before he actually did.
Obama doesn’t think private enterprise works at anything.
How are you going to dumb down America if you we are abolishing government-run schools?
“Every community in America should give all parents a voucher equal...”
No, giving money to the government just to give back is silly, counterproductive and expensive.
Cut taxpayer taxes the amount of education and we move on.
Should be an interesting thread! I am homeschooled by a self-taught brainiac — or as the brainiac would say, an autodidactic polymath — who was anti public school way back in the 1960s. We’re currently homeschooling my young sibling here at 668. So far the family sports just that one aforementioned genius, but even the youngun compares favorably to any college graduate.
Moreover, public school is a form of welfare. Just say no.
But amen to killing the Department of Education. Even if it was constitutional, judging by the performance of public schools these days, it should be shut down because it isn't doing anything.
Vouchers will just back-door federal/political control. Education isn’t expensive, but government school is.
The government school system must be dismantled....completely.
Since prisoners have to spend all their time behind bars, why shouldn’t our children have to spend more time at school?
There is still a place for community controlled public schools. The key words being community, as in parents and teachers working together to provide children with a decent education. An education that allows them to develop life skils and the academic skills they need. One that is focused on dispensing knowledge not indoctrination.
The sad truth is that if the home is broken then the child’s chances in school are also broken. The way government schools are set up they just can not help already disadvantaged children thrive in schools. Community schools developed with the leeway to use methods that work for the challenges facing that community would be a good alternative for those who can not afford tuitions.
Prepare to be flamed.
Just this year, that idiot senator woman Murkowski was saying that no Republican ever advocated for abolishing the Department of Education.
Rand Paul’s primary opponent accused him of wanting to abolish the Department of Education.
Shutting down public schools is not a “conservative Republican” idea these days.
I’m for abolishing government schools and the property tax. Let’s restore property rights while we’re at it seeing as how they say property taxes fund government schools.
I know, I’m just an evil misogynist and racist.
bttt
NO, NO, NO OBOZO, you have it all wrong – as usual!!
If you and your Marxist buds over at the Dept. of Indoctrination (Education) would pull out all the socialist PROPAGANDA (such as the extreme example at the link), and devote that time to actually educating these kids in critical thinking skills and the Three Rs, the school YEAR could probably be compressed into the school QUARTER.
A far better solution is for the incoming crop of new legislators to DEFUND the DOE, shut it down and then turn the states loose to scrap the entire rotten system for one where the parents decide where their kids are indoctri – er – educated.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7u0GJSZttZE
A true story.
In 1978, my wife and I came to know a young woman named Patty. She
was a devoutly religious young mother who’d become more devout when her
husband and father of her two small sons aged 2 and 6 informed her that he
was leaving. In dire economic straits, I offered to let her stay in our former home in Chamblee — which was not rented at the time – rent-free until she got back on her feet. She had been clandestinely home schooling the 6 year old for about 2 years using very well done Christian course materials from an organization in Texas the name of which escapes me. The lad had recently been tested and had placed at least a year ABOVE his chronological age. As required by the government school authorities at the time, she dutifully apprised the authorities of his scores.
For reasons which would become clear in a moment, Patty had been harassed by the DeKalb County school authorities for about 6 months and, by the time she moved into the Chamblee house, had been — unbeknownst to us — ORDERED to put the 6 year old into the nearest government elementary school or suffer the consequences. Because she wanted the boys to be educated Christians, there was no way she was going to do that and she told them so.
At approximately 2 am one morning, a loud knock on the door announced the arrival of the aforementioned “consequences.”
Dressed only in a nightgown, she was confronted by several burly police officers who thrust an arrest warrant in her face. With the now awakened 6 year old watching and the 2 year old wailing in the other room, she was handcuffed and led out the door to jail. She was tossed into a large cell with a couple of hookers and a junkie who spent much of the rest of that morning vomiting in the corner. The two young boys for whom the educational authorities professed such great concern were just left AT THE HOUSE — ALONE! Patty was later told that the bureaucrats from Children Services who were SUPPOSED to accompany the cops were late and, in their haste to get this dangerous miscreant behind bars, the cops just missed the fact that the Children Services people were, well, missing. The CS folks showed up an hour later to find two terrified kids, one of whom had just seen his mother hauled off in cuffs.
Patty was ultimately brought to trial under the Georgia Truancy Statutes. Her pro-bono attorney tore the school authorities to shreds and hers has been called THE case that opened the floodgates to home schooling in Georgia. Once they had all the facts, the jury didn’t take long to acquit her. I’m proud to have played a small part in that.
At Patty’s trial, a previously overlooked aspect of the government schools was put into sharp focus for those paying attention: The Director of Instruction for DeKalb County testified that the then current 7 hour school day consisted of an average of approximately 3 hours or less of instruction. At that time, Patty was devoting 4 to 5 hours a day to direct instruction.
He also as much as admitted that the REAL reason they wanted ALL these kids in school was the $3,000.00 per kid per year (I’m sure that number is MUCH higher today!) they then got from the state and federal government. Empty seats = lost funds. As in most things, follow the money.
Patty home schooled these two boys through high school.
And how did the boys turn out?
One is now a physician and the other a budding journalist.
But that now seems to be the norm for the growing legions of home schooled kids – which most likely explains why the NEA and the government school folks feel so threatened. For what it’s worth, a home schooled kid won the last National Spelling Bee.
Thomas Jefferson believed an EDUCATED PUBLIC to be the cornerstone of the system he and the other Founders TRIED to leave behind. He would NOT, I feel certain, be a big fan of the current government education system. If he returned today, he’d home school just as he did before.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0lR1KQq2-U
Dick Bachert
Not only is this a good idea, though not original, it is IMPERATIVE to the future of this amazing Republic! However, too many Americans have already been too dumbed down for the abolishment of government schools to become a reality. If we could go back to when property owners alone could vote, we may stand a chance. The Cancer of Corruption is growing in government, and without a dedicated pool of voters, there is viable antidote.
The US Department of Education consists of over 5000 employees and has a budget of about 70 billion per year. Their primary function is to produce regulations and to perpetuate their own existence. They contribute nothing directly to the US education system.
The problem with the public school system is that, while it may have been, in the beginning, well-intentioned, with the main purpose of getting our children educated, it has been been transformed into a system of career guarantees for teachers and others who depend upon the system for lifetime jobs. Along with the teachers, we have unions whose only job is to guarantee their existence through maintaining the teachers happy with life-long jobs and great benefits, and protections against being terminated. Along the way, politicians figured out a way to make school systems and unions dependent upon government largess and protections.
So, the school system is not about educating our kids. It’s mostly about the teachers and the unions and the democratic party maintaining it’s hold on those unions and teachers, and thus, keeping within it’s party ranks, most of those who work in the system. Without the unions and the teachers, the democratic party would lose most elections. So, the kids suffer when the primary goal for the public school system is no longer about educating the kids.
If we pro rate the part-time salaries that we pay teachers into a full-time salary, then our teachers make more than many engineers. Also, maybe if engineers in Chin made more money, they wouldn't have to plagiarize the product design from the west.