Open Carry Debate Could Affect Businesses Culver's Decides Not To Create New Policy

channel3000.com ^ | 21 September, 2010 | NA

[marktwain]

It is a smart business move not to ban open carry. Simply following the laws is least likely to alienate customers.

[chaosagent]

“Guns could be in many other places. But in a restaurant? I don’t know. What’s the use for it?” said Jonuzi.

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Google “lubys massacre” to find out ‘the use for it’ is.

[Gondring]

He needs to hear this testimony, of course.

[Keith in Iowa]

>>>>Some businesses said guns can scare some people, especially if they’re not aware of open carry laws.

This is where the pro-gun groups print up a flier that succinctly explains Wisconsin’s Open Carry laws, and provides copies of it for distribution to the Wisconsin Restaurant Association to pass out to its membership.

[sinanju]

I love it. Saul Alinsky would approve.

You don’t further the 2nd Amendment by being quiet little church mice.

You get lawyered up and go for broke, being ever so careful to stay within the letter of the law.

Then, when business owners and cops put their feet in it, you hoist them on their own petard and make a big, fat, stinking issue. File a suit and start calling the media.

You can call it being obnoxious, you can also call it being pro-active.

[earlJam]

If I owned the business I would have asked them to leave.

It may be legal but it is not good for business. Allowing your children to scream and run around the restaurant may be legal, but in the same way it would be bad for business.

[marktwain]

“If I owned the business I would have asked them to leave.”

Business owners around the country disagree. Not only to open carriers bring in revenue, they provide a higer level of security.

[goat granny]

I cannot help but wonder why some want that gun on their hip....smarter for those with guns to have them concealed. then the bad guys don't know who to go after...I'd rather have a gun in my purse or shoulder holster than in plain site....I think those that fight for guns in plain site do a disservice to us....they will push until there is a backlash against all carry laws....but that is just mho..

[marktwain]

Sorry, “higer” should be “higher”.

[Gondring]

Business owners around the country disagree.

Madison isn't around the country.

[Kozak]

"Guns could be in many other places. But in a restaurant? I don't know. What's the use for it?" said Jonuzi.

Luby's cafeteria massacre

[GrannyAnn]

Google McDonalds Massacre in San Ysidro Ca. 21 killed.

[marktwain]

“I cannot help but wonder why some want that gun on their hip....smarter for those with guns to have them concealed. then the bad guys don't know who to go after...I'd rather have a gun in my purse or shoulder holster than in plain site....I think those that fight for guns in plain site do a disservice to us....they will push until there is a backlash against all carry laws....but that is just mho..”

It appears to be exactly the opposite of what you fear. Wearing a gun in plain sight is direct deterrence of crime. Few criminals want to risk an armed encounter.

While there has been some push-back from the far left, what we see is a normalization of gun carrying by citizens who do not wear a uniform. Most people simply do not care. Felons do not carry openly. Felons do not use holsters.

The left has worked for 100 years to delegitimize the carrying of guns by people who do not wear uniforms. It will take a little bit to re-legitimize it, but it is happening much faster than I ever thought it would.

[earlJam]

Business owners around the country disagree. Not only to open carriers bring in revenue, they provide a higer level of security

I don't believe you.

[Zuben Elgenubi]

Culver's Corp. was considering the need for a policy addressing the issue after a concerned customer called police.

Doesn't pass the smell test. How could the "concerned customer" know the guys weren't cops undercover? Oh, I get it. The undercover cop enjoying the sundae at the counter was the concerned customer.

[jafojeffsurf]

I agree when I wear it on the hip it is a political statement. When I wear it concealed it is for safety. Why let the bad guys make you target #1 or #2? Surprise is part of a winning battle.

[GOPsterinMA]

Open carry is actually legal (with a permit) in MA.

Try doing it though. The cops will be all over you faster than the speed of light. You might not get cuffed, but there will be a record of the incident, and that WILL keep you from getting your CCW permit renewed.

[rlmorel]

"...Guns could be in many other places. But in a restaurant? I don’t know. What’s the use for it?” said Jonuzi..."

Hm. Well, I don't know...

[Gilbo_3]

dont forget, Wis has NO CCW [Ill is the only other] so they have no choice but to Open carry...

tactically, there are pros & cons to either carry mode, in this case im definatly pro choice...