Lugar: Mexican drug lords 'most immediate' threat to U.S. security

The Hill ^ | Sept. 26, 2010 | Mike Lillis

[mrsmel]

I blame them, because instead of coming here to become good Americans, they proceed to try to re-create the very conditions they fled from in Mexico. When they’ve helped to destroy this nation, then to where will they flee? After Canada, it will be a little more difficult to just sneak across borders and bring their cultural baggage with them.

[Deagle]

Yes, integration has become a real problem lately... You can’t overflow America with millions a year (from any country) and expect them to become part of America. They do not have the time or incentive to learn English or enjoy the merits of being American. Seems that is why immigration was controlled in the first place...

[mrsmel]

Because America, what she really is about (or was in the past) means absolutely nothing to them. We just happen to be a handy close-by first-world nation, easily accessible, all they have to do is jump the border to be here. We have always been compassionate to those who came in the past. But those who came in the past had to really want to be here. They had to make sacrifices, say goodbye to all they’d ever known. They saw America as more than an free ride. The parasites from Mexico just see an available host, with no concern as to how soon they kill it. They make no sacrifice to come here, they don’t go through inspectiom at Ellis Island to make sure they aren’t criminals, health risks, etc. They don’t save and scrimp to get money for boat passage, leaving all they ever knew, probably never to see it again. They’re not “all in” and for the long haul, like the immigrants of the Great Migration period.

We attract what we get, through our policies. When we attracted people who came here to work, contribute, and become Americans, that’s what we got. Now we have policies attractive to those who want to freeload while demanding their “rights”, so that’s what we get. If they shared a border with, for instance Canada or Australia, it’d be the same. The nation as an ideal means nothing, it’s about an easy host for these ticks and fleas. (And that’s almost literal, they are bringing not only diseases we’d wiped out decades ago, but ones we never had, not to mention terrible parasites).

[Deagle]

Absolutely right on! Gone are the good ole days of immigration and integration. Much of this is of our own making.

[Extremely Extreme Extremist]

Lugar is a disgrace and should be primaried in 2012.

[SunkenCiv]

"Hey! Lugar! Over here!"

[TeachableMoment]

Did he decide this before or after he co-sponsored the DREAM act?

[hosepipe]

WRONG.. Congress is the most current threat to National Security..
Next.. Is the President and his minions...
After that the State Department and Department Of Justice..

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Government is not a solution to our problem, government is the problem. -Ronald Reagan.

[Carry_Okie]

Lugar: Mexican drug lords 'most immediate' threat to U.S. security,

No. Open borders advocates like Dickie Lugar are the "most immediate threat" to US security.

[jmacusa]

Well then if other sovereign nations can interfere in the affairs of another sovereign nation(that being us) then what other agencies of the government are we sub-contracting out? And why the Hell should any of us continue to pay taxes to a government that refuses to secure our borders and protect us?

[Four Twenty]

Not a problem... We will just close the border. /s Well, that's half of it. The other half is cutting off a portion of their revenue stream by allowing Americans to grow and distribute the product that they have a near-monopoly over. That's probably more likely to happen than closing the borders effectively. We need both, of course...

[Deagle]

Sorry, not going to happen. Like most law enforcement issues, either enforce the laws or change them. They are NOT going to be changed to your liking any time soon.

What you are doing is essentially changing the subject - but can understand it from your point of view.

[montag813]

NOW Lugar gets this, after decades of being one of the staunchest advocates of open borders in either party?

[Four Twenty]

Like most law enforcement issues, either enforce the laws or change them. They are NOT going to be changed to your liking any time soon. I don't know about that. Cannabis becomes more and more legal every year. There's a very good chance that it's going to become completely legal in California soon. It looks like the law's going in my direction. As for illegal immigration, let's apply your prescription: "enforce the laws or change them." Does it look like we have a real chance of enforcing our immigration laws any time soon?

[Deagle]

Well, regarding illegal immigration enforcement, our wonderful elected folks seem to be trying to follow your path to legalization of drugs. Of course you realize that California is not only the leading liberal state, but also one of the few that has folks way outside of the mainstream and they do have some doozies...

If America follows California, we will become a defenseless, drug happy, non-polluting commune...but you will be able to have your high. Can’t wait for that.

[Four Twenty]

If America follows California, we will become a defenseless, drug happy, non-polluting commune...but you will be able to have your high. Can’t wait for that. I have to tell you, it's really not as much of a "high" as you're probably thinking. Basically, it enhances perception. Food tastes amazing. Imagine the hungriest you've ever been. Then think of the first bite of food that you bring to your lips. You know how good that tastes? Well that tastes like dog poop compared to what everything tastes like when you're stoned. Music? Imagine your favorite song, being played by your favorite band, in your living room, on the best day of your life. That's what every single song sounds like after a few tokes. Any sensory experience just feels a million times better. And everyone's your friend. The world is a relaxed, mellow place. No need to fight with anyone. So it's not really a "high," but I will enjoy it quite a bit when it's legalized. I'm glad to hear that you're awaiting it as eagerly as I am! But seriously... "defenseless"? Nah, I want a strong military with spiffy uniforms. I'd prefer if we didn't spend so much money risking our brave young men saving the lives of a bunch of ungrateful Mohammedans who want to kill us no matter how nice we are to them, but some wars are necessary. "Drug happy"? I don't want to see anyone become a slave to any substance or habit, but if we could trade all our alcoholics for stoners, this world would be a better place. "Non-polluting"? Well, I don't want soot to be pumped onto my property, do you? "Commune"? Ha! I'm probably more of a free-marketer than you are. You wouldn't believe what I would like to do to most of our regulatory agencies. The fact is that the Mexican gangs are being supported by drug prohibition the same way that Al Capone was supported by alcohol prohibition. We do the same thing, and expect a different result. That, sir, is madness.

[bmwcyle]

I thought it was RINO Republicans like Lugar.

[alexandria]

No, No, No.
Everyone say with me L-A-N-D-M-I-N-E-S. All the way down the border.
Also, add signs warning of unexpected unplanned eruptions due to system glitches. This would give someone w/ a detector pause.

Wait, even better, have a website where users can watch the field for intruders and remote detonate the mines.

Sorry, I keep having these dreams you see...