Posted on 09/24/2010 10:57:39 AM PDT by marktwain
Here are links to previous articles and discussion about this case.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2594739/posts?page=2
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2594740/posts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2595369/posts?page=3
Where is the NRA? Shilling for Hairy Reid and other Dems? Where is the NRA in the Nevada case where the legal CCW guy was murdered by the cops?
Crickets.
That is why I left the NRA this year.
Yeah, you’d think Nifong, I mean Wray, would back off given the evidence he’s been presented with...
Good luck to ‘em. IF they can pull this off in the Peoples Republik of Madistahn, then maybe there’s hope for us in Illinois...
Has the NRA endorsed Ried? I wrote to’m and asked, they wrote back saying they were still looking at it.
“Wisconsin Carry, Inc. has tried to solve this diplomatically, but Madison Police Chief Noble Wray has simply declared all-out war by charging all 5 men with disorderly conduct, despite the Wisconsin Attorney General stating that open carry is not disorderly conduct and should not be prosecuted!”
Section 1983 action for official oppression - pretty open-and-shut, seems to me...
Colonel, USAFR
Racine, WI, recently had to settle a case with almost the exact same fact pattern for $10,000. It really is a slam-dunk...
Problem is, if the drop the case, there’s no ruling in favor of those arrested.
Which means the police chief doesn’t have to stop doing what he’s currently doing. He will keep arresting people.
This is what the West Allis police chief is doing, despite a court case saying so. The reason was the judge said “in this particular case there was no disorderly counduct”. Chief doesn’t change his procedures because the next case may be disorderly so cops’ actions to arrest while open carrying may be justified.
Where is the NRA? Shilling for Hairy Reid “
NRA refused to endorse Reid.
I can't put such a thing past the leftist nuts in this country.
Frankly, to me these demonstrations are somewhat odd in character, which could well be used to be off-putting to those whom we seek to convince. To me it makes more political sense to organize and promote more folks being seen carrying without any apparent political purpose: thousands of acts walking down a road alone, working behind the counter of a convenience store at night, walking a pedestrian through a dark parking lot... Make it seem "normal" by acting as if it is. Such acts seem to me to do more to convince the public of the necessity and safety provided by an armed citizenry than demonstrations such as these.
Not long ago, we were getting daily visits by a pack of coyotes in ones and twos. Before I went to go to the lower part of the property to go weeding, I strapped on my .357, in part to protect my dog. I worked up the property line to the county road and was walking home, that big black bulge clinging to my left hip for a cross-draw. This is rural/suburban California not far from Santa Cruz, perhaps the most rabidly communist County jurisdiction to be found in the State. Needless to say, I got bug-eyed stares from the neighbors, but I think it was that I had forgotten I had it on that was most effective, just walking with my weed bag, my dog (about 30-50 feet away off leash on our land), and my gun. I've been asked about it, so it gives me a chance for a real "teaching moment." The explanation has yet to fail to make sense to the neighbors, particularly as regards protecting the dog.
What you describe is what the men were doing when they were charged. No politics just out for a meal.
Your dime -- your choice.
But do you really want the NRA not to be there?
That is what they say, but at the same time, the article describe these as intentional gatherings. That is a far cry from what I advocated. It would make a very different (and to my mind more effective) public impression for example, if but one of them had been carrying and everybody else at the table was obviously at ease.
This ‘chief’ needs to be sued in Federal court, stripped of his immunity, and bankrupted.
The following from one of your earlier posts on this topic.
The caller, Ms. Phyllis Micke, emphasized to the 911 dispatcher that the guns were in holsters, and that “there’s no problem” . . . [the men are] “just sitting there extremely relaxed.” After the dispatcher explained that open carry was legal unless they are threatening or disturbing people, Micke declared that “there’s no problem and it’s no emergency . . .I feel bad then, if they’re not doing anything wrong then it’s my mistake.”
Just pointing out one portion of the story that "icarry" somewhat mis-represented. Otherwise, I pretty much agree with everything they said. All charges should be promptly dismissed.
Is it there now? From what I have seen this year, the NRA is only "there" to collect membership fees.
“Problem is, if the drop the case, there’s no ruling in favor of those arrested.”
There is still sufficient grounds for a lawsuit, I believe.
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