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To: OneWingedShark
Let’s say there’s a big old sign that says, among other things that there are no firearms allowed in the park. Does that make the arrest legitimate?

Hmmm. Well, if the state law says it's ok to carry in parks I think that would render the, assuming it's a towns law, void.

Does this information change the answer you would have given above?

Certainly gives one pause to be sure. For me, I have CCW's for years and would never open carry. That's just me, but you raise a great point. I guess it all comes down to how far we'd like to take it, ya know?

115 posted on 09/17/2010 11:44:35 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: Puppage

>>Let’s say there’s a big old sign that says, among other things that there are no firearms allowed in the park. Does that make the arrest legitimate?
>
>Hmmm. Well, if the state law says it’s ok to carry in parks I think that would render the, assuming it’s a towns law, void.

Well, the State Constitution is supposedly the highest non-US Constitution law of the land (state).

>>Does this information change the answer you would have given above?
>
>Certainly gives one pause to be sure. For me, I have CCW’s for years and would never open carry. That’s just me, but you raise a great point. I guess it all comes down to how far we’d like to take it, ya know?

Indeed. I’m tempted to push the issue.
I could raise Seven Shit Storms, legally speaking...

Imagine:
I could call myself in to the police for carrying openly in the city-park and demanding that the officer arrests me.
(Hopefully they would use more than just one police officer to make the arrest... but that comes into play later.)
In court:
1 — Challenge the validity of the *law* under which I was arrested according to Art II, Sec 4.
2 — Challenge the validity of the *law* under which I was arrested according to Art II, Sec 6.
3 — Challenge the validity of the *arrest* itself, based on #1.
4 — Challenge the validity of the *arrest* itself, based on #2.
5 — Challenge the validity of the *law* under Art II, Sec 1.
6 — Charge the arresting officers on the basis of this law: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode18/usc_sec_18_00000241——000-.html
7 — Charge the [entire] state legislature on the basis of the above.

Ah, I can almost smell the Chaos.
[NM State Constitution, Art II: http://www.conwaygreene.com/nmsu/lpext.dll?f=FifLink&t=document-frame.htm&l=query&iid=6c1804dd.55b72e94.0.0&q=%5BGroup%20%27nmc%20artii%27%5D ]


125 posted on 09/17/2010 12:25:43 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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