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Gunned Down in Vegas: What Really Happened to Erik Scott?
Pajamas Media ^ | September 16, 2010 | Bob Owens

Posted on 09/17/2010 8:33:36 AM PDT by Kaslin

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To: Kaslin

As far as I’m concerned, Erik Scott was murdered in cold blood by these police officers.


81 posted on 09/17/2010 9:51:13 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (2010: A "show 'em the rope and point at the branch" election.)
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To: Deaf Smith

I could see that, now come to think of it. That they would have big bandwidth. I forgot how constant the data is these big chains, that when you leave the store, the purchases are immediately sent to just in time suppliers. So, maybe they do have the bandwidth.

Questions though. Is it the same, or is the refresh, buffering rate, ie quality, reduced? This is common for bandwidth problems where the high quality remains on site, and a choppier, lower quality is sent out.

I find the notion of any copy/retrieval error suspicious. Professional systems are not handled by the new bag boy. Costco would have their own tech’s, the physical system and software would be the same store-to-store. Retrieving for employee theft, shop lifting, slip and falls would be uber routine task.


82 posted on 09/17/2010 9:55:11 AM PDT by Leisler ("Over time they create a legal system that plunders and a moral code that glorifies it." F. Bastiat)
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To: Domandred

Almost to the point where you’d have to pick Option #4. But you would have to be REALLY fast.


83 posted on 09/17/2010 9:56:10 AM PDT by 21twelve ( You can go from boom to bust, from dreams to a bowl of dust ... another lost generation.)
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To: Deaf Smith; Leisler; UCANSEE2

That’s what they said. After claiming it wasn’t gotten on tape, the cameras were off. The tapes were damaged. They had to be sent to Calif to be “restored”. Yeah. I’m buying that. Not.


84 posted on 09/17/2010 10:00:12 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: Kaslin

Other witnesses and the police claim that Eric Scott was armed and acting irrationally, and that his own actions led to his shooting.”
What did the “other witnesses” say?
Media has taught us and officers that unless you’re a cop only kooks carry guns. In dramatic moment your even more inclined to think its a crazy gunman situation then a case of hyperventalating do gooders, no?


85 posted on 09/17/2010 10:00:42 AM PDT by steve0 (My plan B: christianexodus.org/)
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To: Domandred

Officer 1. “Get On THE GROUND”
Officer 2. “Freeze”
Officer 3. “ Let me see your hands”
Officer 1. “Hands? GUN?”
Officer 2. “Freeze! Freeze! I told you to Freeze”.
Officer 1. “Get DOWN NOW. GET DOWN NOW”.

( insert shooting here )

Officer 1. “Why didn’t he obey?”
Officer 3. ‘He had a gun’
Officer 2. “He didn’t obey, right?”
Officers 1 and 3. “Correct”


86 posted on 09/17/2010 10:02:34 AM PDT by Leisler ("Over time they create a legal system that plunders and a moral code that glorifies it." F. Bastiat)
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To: brytlea
"Second because it gives a reason for people to come out and paint all police offers as villains."

As long as the good cops tolerate the bad then they can be expected to be painted with that brush. I suspect many in the general public believe the good cops know who the bad ones are and essentially cover for them - I know I do.

Say, speaking of West Point, here's a little ethical tidbit from that institution for the good cops to consider: "A cadet will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do."

87 posted on 09/17/2010 10:02:59 AM PDT by Flag_This (Real presidents don't bow.)
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To: Deaf Smith

Sure they will release it... A half hour after the Sun burns out.


88 posted on 09/17/2010 10:03:09 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (III, Alarm and Muster)
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89 posted on 09/17/2010 10:04:21 AM PDT by loungitude ( The truth hurts.)
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To: Kaslin

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/09/12/AR2010091203938.html


90 posted on 09/17/2010 10:05:39 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heros have always been cowboys)
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To: Domandred

Correct sir — if one cop is on the scene, he’s in charge. If three cops show up, one needs to be in charge and the others should shut up. Conflicting commands lead to disastrous results.


91 posted on 09/17/2010 10:08:06 AM PDT by ken in texas (No taglines... out of new ideas, and the others will get me banned.)
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To: DJ MacWoW

They are not ‘tapes’. It is digital, files a few minutes long, for each camera. Software operation is, often, run off Windows, with point and click, drag and copy functions.

Costco has a liability issue here, having called the police. Civil suit, millions.

For Costco, the messing up of the ‘tapes’ while unfortunate, could be a heads up move for a loyal lower management type. Basically, destroy anything that can be used against us. Wink-wink, nod nod.


92 posted on 09/17/2010 10:08:24 AM PDT by Leisler ("Over time they create a legal system that plunders and a moral code that glorifies it." F. Bastiat)
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To: yldstrk

1% of cops have the piles the rest are perfect a$$holes.


93 posted on 09/17/2010 10:08:37 AM PDT by old gringo
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To: Leisler
I realize they aren't traditional tapes but it's the easiest thing to ca;ll them as everyone understands that reference.

Since the initial killing of Scott they have claimed problems with the video. They will either release damaged video that's no help or doctor them.

94 posted on 09/17/2010 10:12:47 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: brytlea
I hate these stories. First because this seems a senseless killing of a man who did nothing wrong. Second because it gives a reason for people to come out and paint all police offers as villains.

No kidding. I've had multiple contacts with police forces and found them to be helpful. Problem arise when they arrive 1. given false information over the phone about the nature of the person to be confronted (like in this case, and a recent controversial case in my town) 2. to find an armed person who, through bad communication under a stressful situation, appears not to be cooperating (like another case this month in my town).

Being stopped while "carrying" generally leads to nothing happening. But in a tiny, tiny percentage of instances, things go south. It's part of the risk that goes along with the activity, just like it does with driving, mountain climbing, or any other legal activity. To paint it as the arrival of a police state is pure lunacy.

95 posted on 09/17/2010 10:13:53 AM PDT by qwertypie
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To: databoss
I would comply EXACTLY to their commands.

cool, you have six arms and are triple jointed eh ???

how does on 'drop it'...'get down'...and 'hands up' simultaneously ???

*whichever* option you choose, youre *disobeying* an order from 2/3 of the public servants shouting them...

anyone on FR will tell you that disobediance is punishable by death.../s...

96 posted on 09/17/2010 10:17:56 AM PDT by Gilbo_3 (Gov is not reason; not eloquent; its force.Like fire,a dangerous servant & master. George Washington)
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To: old gringo
1% of cops have the piles the rest are perfect a$$holes.

Two years ago in another state, I was minding my business when, all of a sudden, a large twenty-something guy with wild eyes jumped in my path and began screaming violently at me. Only one other person, a woman, was in any position to see this. (It was a resort area during offpeak season).

I retreated from the animal and sweated for about 2 minutes. Not more than 3 minutes later, a bike cop rode by per chance. I flagged him down and told him to check it out.

Well, this bike cop was not more than 5-9 and 150 lbs, and he courageously approached that character within wrestling distance. Without pulling his weapon, and ask edfor an ID. I couldn't believe the fellow's balls.

After completing the check, he told me that the guy was off his meds, and not a crack/meth case that I had presumed. The cop was a great guy, completely calm, and not a cowboy that some on this thread are stereotyping them. And, personally, I would never want his thankless job.

97 posted on 09/17/2010 10:24:23 AM PDT by qwertypie
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To: Domandred

again, we do not know what the guard said.the assumption and speculation is what you said but we don’t know that as fact. it may not be so. the easy way to prove it would be the police release the 911 tape. why they haven’t done that only they know. Could it be it doesn’t support the theory of what the guard said?


98 posted on 09/17/2010 10:27:25 AM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: paul51

good point...*if* the tapes showed a raving maniacal call, the LVPD would release em to show that they had good reason to send out the helicopters and order an evac of the store...and ultimately kill a man...


99 posted on 09/17/2010 10:31:45 AM PDT by Gilbo_3 (Gov is not reason; not eloquent; its force.Like fire,a dangerous servant & master. George Washington)
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To: Kaslin
I assume that Costco has deep pockets because they're going to need that cash.
100 posted on 09/17/2010 10:33:30 AM PDT by Major Matt Mason (Never trust a liberal...or a GOP moderate.)
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