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To: SmithL
The only viable solution to the public pension mess is to declare them unconscionable contracts, obtained through fraudulent means, and void them. The next step would be to arrest the union leadership and any political figures that took their money and then sat across the bargaining table from them.

After they are convicted of theft by swindle they can be offered clemency if they agree to stay away from union activity and politics for life, as well as forfeit all money they and assets ever accumulated in their life of crime. The seized assets can go to partially compensate public employees that won't get the pensions obtained for them via fraud.

3 posted on 09/16/2010 10:42:04 PM PDT by Minn
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To: Minn

“The only viable solution to the public pension mess is to declare them unconscionable contracts, obtained through fraudulent means, and void them. The next step would be to arrest the union leadership and any political figures that took their money and then sat across the bargaining table from them.”

The entire industry surrounding public defined benefit pensions is a fraud, perpetuating blatant malpractice and deliberate misinformation. The entire industry should be indicted for harm to the taxpayer and overcompensation to government employees.


4 posted on 09/16/2010 10:55:00 PM PDT by businessprofessor
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To: Minn

Hey, I like you and the way you think. Sigend: An Ex-MN.


7 posted on 09/17/2010 2:56:59 AM PDT by SgtHooper
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To: Minn
The only viable solution to the public pension mess is to declare them unconscionable contracts, obtained through fraudulent means, and void them.

A very good solution---betcha dollars to donuts a lot of those pension apps are fraudulent. Pension apps are NOT just pieces paper---they are a high-level personnel process that greatly impacts taxpayers.

Filing false documents is a felony----and could be prosecutable under RICO and The Hobbs Act if there was a "pattern of organized activity to extort"--- resulting in harm to taxpayers, and area commerce.

10 posted on 09/17/2010 6:01:19 AM PDT by Liz
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