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DNA Evidence Clears Two Men Who Served 30 Years Each For Rape
news ^ | Sept. 16, 2010 | MARK SCHONE

Posted on 09/16/2010 12:13:29 PM PDT by JoeProBono

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To: Puppage

You cannot “admit guilt” if you are NOT GUILTY, you can only accept blame to end the insanity.


41 posted on 09/16/2010 12:41:24 PM PDT by JDW11235 (I think I got it now!)
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To: cherry

From reading the article, it sounds to me as if maybe they pointed fingers at each other and allowed the prosecution to build a strong case that they were all involved.


42 posted on 09/16/2010 12:41:43 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Let the Eastern bastards freeze in the dark.")
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To: JoeProBono

Probably just means that the third rapist whose DNA was recovered was not named. Or, that the stupid police confused the sample after 30 years. So a rapist goes free.


43 posted on 09/16/2010 12:42:07 PM PDT by anton
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To: JDW11235

Admit guilt, accept blame. Since when is there a difference in court? Oh wait....I bet it’s how you feeeeeeeeeeeeel, huh?


44 posted on 09/16/2010 12:43:47 PM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: Wolfie; bitterohiogunclinger

“If it’s all untrustworthy, I guess it’s a matter of which side on which you care to err. I’ll pick the one where an innocent person doesn’t get locked up.”

My father used to give the same quote you did, about the ten to one. I disagreed as a boy, but, the more corrupt our system becomes, the more I understand the need for the innocent to go free. “Sacrifices must be made” is all well and good, until the steal your money, break down your door, and take away your kids and you life, etc.


45 posted on 09/16/2010 12:43:47 PM PDT by JDW11235 (I think I got it now!)
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To: Puppage

No, it’s about the truth. Good luck to you and yours.


46 posted on 09/16/2010 12:44:33 PM PDT by JDW11235 (I think I got it now!)
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To: mainsail that
It could never happen to you right?

My point was not that it was wrong, or ridiculous, but that it wasn't explained in the story.

47 posted on 09/16/2010 12:44:53 PM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: bitterohiogunclinger
I have just as much skepticism about the DNA evidence as I do “eyewitness” testimony. There have been far too many cases of misconduct on the part of lab technicians in some cases

I also wonder if human Chimeras might commit a higher percentage of crime.

Chimera's have differnt DNA profiles in different tissues of their bodies.

So their DNA in their blood could easily not match DNA in their saliva or hair or semen, and so forth.

If so, their DNA tests could easily mistakenly exonerate them.

And if chimeras do commit a higher percentage of crime (because of their screwed up DNA), then it's no surprise that so many DNA tests on criminals make them seem wrongly convicted, because a high percentage of criminals would be chimeras.

48 posted on 09/16/2010 12:45:09 PM PDT by Age of Reason
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To: Puppage
Do innocent men routinely admit guilt in order to get to receive that 30 year stretch?

Routinely? We won't ever know that, will we? But, we do know that these three men did.

49 posted on 09/16/2010 12:45:39 PM PDT by Fundamentally Fair (If exercising the right to free speech invites violence, then girls in short skirts invite rape.)
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To: JDW11235
I assume you read the portion where he alledges he was beaten into a confession

Actually, I didn't, before I posted that. THEN i noticed the PAGE 2.

50 posted on 09/16/2010 12:46:14 PM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: Alberta's Child
From reading the article,

You may want to try it again.

51 posted on 09/16/2010 12:47:43 PM PDT by Fundamentally Fair (If exercising the right to free speech invites violence, then girls in short skirts invite rape.)
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To: Izzy Dunne

That’s what I meant when you said the page 2, I figured you had just gotten to it. It’s a sad story for everyone involved, except the initial prosecutor, who will probably never pay any penalty.


52 posted on 09/16/2010 12:48:16 PM PDT by JDW11235 (I think I got it now!)
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To: Fundamentally Fair; Alberta's Child

I think (s)he is referring to this part.

“Dixon and Bivens had pleaded guilty in 1980 to the crime and claimed that Ruffin was the rapist. Dixon claimed in an interview with the Jackson Clarion-Ledger that he fingered Ruffin after police beat him. Ruffin insisted on taking his case to trial continued to maintain his innocence until his death in a prison accident.”


53 posted on 09/16/2010 12:50:17 PM PDT by JDW11235 (I think I got it now!)
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To: JDW11235

Thank you....


54 posted on 09/16/2010 12:51:36 PM PDT by nevergore ("It could be that the purpose of my life is simply to serve as a warning to others.")
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To: JDW11235; Fundamentally Fair
Right, thanks. That bit of information made a strange story even more confusing.

(Mr.) Alberta's Child

:-)

55 posted on 09/16/2010 12:52:50 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Let the Eastern bastards freeze in the dark.")
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To: Alberta's Child

Ahh MR. Alberta’s child :), I see, I wasn’t certain of it’s importance either, except that if someone pled guilty, I didn’t understand the finger pointing, unless if, as innocent people, they tried everything to make the problem go away (maybe guilty people do that too)...


56 posted on 09/16/2010 12:56:34 PM PDT by JDW11235 (I think I got it now!)
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57 posted on 09/16/2010 12:57:15 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Visualize)
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To: JDW11235

Maybe they pled guilty and pointed fingers in the hope of getting a lighter sentence, too.


58 posted on 09/16/2010 12:58:36 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Let the Eastern bastards freeze in the dark.")
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To: JoeProBono

If we legalize rape, then this would never happen.

/s

/stupid extreme libertarianism OFF


59 posted on 09/16/2010 1:00:27 PM PDT by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com <--- My Fiction/ Science Fiction Board)
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To: JoeProBono

Excellnt chart, but very small. I find it fitting that police misconduct is nearly tied for 2nd (with serology inclusion) after mistaken identity. With Prosecutorial Misconduct just trailing that.


60 posted on 09/16/2010 1:02:35 PM PDT by JDW11235 (I think I got it now!)
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