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Has HDTV Code Been Cracked? (Duh?)
Fox News ^ | Sept 14, 2010 | Blake Snow

Posted on 09/15/2010 7:29:58 AM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie

Much to the chagrin of the entertainment industry, the encryption that protects most high-definition video content may have just been cracked.

Intel Corp. officials confirmed Tuesday to FoxNews.com an investigation into a security breach, possibly a fundamental compromise of High-bandwidth Digital Content Protection (HDCP) -- the digital rights management software that governs every device that plays high-def content.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: encryption; hdtv
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Who should be blamed are these Executives that make these decisions thinking that the code will never be cracked.

All codes always get cracked if there is the slightest motivation.

Programmers and crypto nuts are very intelligent people and will dedicate their life to cracking it because It's There.

Did they expect us to be on the Honor System why they pick our pockets and produce so much trash.

1 posted on 09/15/2010 7:30:00 AM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie
This is really a non issue, since DVD’s are about to be as obsolete as 8 tracks.

All movies will soon be streamed instantly over the Internet, and there will be no need to ever buy a disk or any other physical item.

Most likely you will just pay to watch it each time, or you will buy a subscription that allows you unlimited downloads for a set price, or possibly you just buy a code that allows you to watch the streamed movie whenever you want, but the days you owning a physical library of movies that you can touch, scratch, lose, brake, ect... are over.

2 posted on 09/15/2010 7:34:37 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama = Epic Fail)
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“Most likely you will just pay to watch it each time,...”

That is the plan. They hate the fact that you ‘own’ the media and can play it once or a thousand times or even (shudder) copy it! It used to be said they wanted to change the ‘play’ button to the ‘pay’ button.


3 posted on 09/15/2010 7:40:10 AM PDT by bk1000 (A clear conscience is a sure sign of a poor memory)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie
Who should be blamed are these Executives that make these decisions thinking that the code will never be cracked.

Yes. The executives ought to know by now, that even if their engineers tell them it'll take a long time to crack, they're overly optimistic.

All codes always get cracked if there is the slightest motivation.

Well, I would substitute "sufficient" for "slightest".

Programmers and crypto nuts are very intelligent people and will dedicate their life to cracking it because It's There.

Yes, and because it's a challenge.

Did they expect us to be on the Honor System why they pick our pockets and produce so much trash.

Can't go with you there. If you don't want the stuff, then don't buy it - they're not making you buy it - resist the hype.

Nobody would bother protecting it and nobody would bother cracking it if they really considered it trash. It's worth protecting because it's valuable (to somebody. anyway).

4 posted on 09/15/2010 7:41:03 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

“Most likely you will just pay to watch it each time,...”

But if you can record it when you watch it, then you will not pay for it again and you can give it to two friends who can give it to two friends...


5 posted on 09/15/2010 7:42:12 AM PDT by swain_forkbeard (Rationality may not be sufficient, but it is necessary.)
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But if you can record it when you watch it

They’ll stop that and that will be the next code to crack. Oh and you’ll need a device that can play it.

The guys who brought you DMCA are not lazy slackers. Greedy sharks with friends in the government, yes, like the scheme to require mp3 players to have FM radios then charge the mp3 mfgr royalty fees for playing ascap and bmi music, to the tune of a hundred mil a year.


6 posted on 09/15/2010 7:49:52 AM PDT by Ender Wiggin
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

Being from an earlier generation, I don’t know from codes, encryption or streaming. I still have a couple of slide rules. Anyhow, I’ve recorded enough movies and football games over the past 30 years to entertain myself, my son and my grandson for the remainder of our lives. Having to pay for the tripe coming out of Hollywood these days won’t affect me in the slightest. The “newest” movie I have is the Odd Couple.


7 posted on 09/15/2010 7:52:13 AM PDT by Oldpuppymax
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I honestly wouldn't mind paying $1 to watch a movie, which is where prices are at the moment (red box).

I would have to watch it 25+ times to come out on the losing end of that deal. And I am unlikely to watch ANY movie that many times even my all time favorites like Star Wars.

8 posted on 09/15/2010 7:52:37 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama = Epic Fail)
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A slide rule is a kind of code. Hand it to someone who has never seen one and see what they can make of it.

I still have a couple of slide rules.

9 posted on 09/15/2010 7:58:57 AM PDT by DManA
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To: TexasFreeper2009

It will be a cold day in hell when I have to pay to view a movie each time.

I prefer having the disk in my hands and in my library,no matter how small that library may be.


10 posted on 09/15/2010 8:04:57 AM PDT by puppypusher (The World is going to the dogs.)
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To: Ender Wiggin

“...like the scheme to require mp3 players to have FM radios then charge the mp3 mfgr royalty fees for playing ascap and bmi music, to the tune of a hundred mil a year.”

Didn’t know about that one. It’s not law is it?


11 posted on 09/15/2010 8:07:24 AM PDT by swain_forkbeard (Rationality may not be sufficient, but it is necessary.)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

Honestly, I walk the aisles looking at new Blu-Ray releases and don’t see much even worth pirating. Mostly I buy movie classics that I don’t already have on DVD. “The Robe” is one example.


12 posted on 09/15/2010 8:09:33 AM PDT by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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“Most likely you will just pay to watch it each time,...”

Until the public won't pay to watch it each time ... then it will be on free TV. It was that way with the VHS/DVDs and it is currently that way with "On Demand" movies. The speed with which a TV/Movie becomes free will increase. Our family will only get a DVD or go to the movies if we really want to see the film (rare). "On Demand" movies are better than going to the movies, but only somewhat. The experience is different but the product is the same. We just wait till its free. There are too many other choices out there about how one spends their leisure time, even in TV/Movies. There is a balance in Americans leisure time and the TV/Movie industry has been out in front for quite a long time, but it doesn't have to remain that way. It most likely will but things can change.

13 posted on 09/15/2010 8:14:39 AM PDT by TexGuy (If it has the slimmest of chances of being considered sarcasm ... IT IS!)
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Dont’ think so, it was being discussed. it likely wil be an fcc regulation as opposed to a law. But Apple and all would have to go along with it.

I saw it on FR a while ago.


14 posted on 09/15/2010 8:22:45 AM PDT by Ender Wiggin
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To: TexasRepublic

The whole two-hour “movie-length-concept” will soon go, too. That’s just a remnant of live theater productions.

I rarely feel I have the time to sit down for two hours of dreadful dialogue in modern movies, with a few minutes of funny scenes or action scenes. When a friend (or more likely my 80-year-old mother) recommends a movie, I just go on youtube and get the gist of it in a 10-minute highlights clip. And I find I can discuss it with the recommender just as well as if I saw the whole dreadful thing.

Now — really good classic movies with excellent scripts and direction can hold my interest for as long as they take. I can get completely lost in movies like North by Northwest. I saw Master & Commander on TV a few weeks ago and sat through the whole thing.

Oh yeah, and one other thing — I was blown away by HD in 2006, of course, but now I hardly notice if what I’m watching is in HD. (Except for football.)


15 posted on 09/15/2010 8:23:55 AM PDT by duckworth (Perhaps instant karma's going to get you. Perhaps not.)
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To: Ender Wiggin
"like the scheme to require mp3 players to have FM radios then charge the mp3 mfgr royalty fees for playing ascap and bmi music, to the tune of a hundred mil a year."

I don't know where you got that one, but that's completely inaccurate.

Radio manufacturers (radios embedded in MP3s players, or not) don't pay the ASCAP/BMI fees. Radio stations - the broadcasters - are the parties responsible for paying ASCAP/BMI fees, not the manufacturers of radio, or the listeners of radios.

16 posted on 09/15/2010 8:29:53 AM PDT by OldDeckHand
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To: TexasRepublic

I for one have a perverse sense of pleasure. I’d spend a hundred dollars and hours of programming time to steal a crappy $20 movie fair and square.


17 posted on 09/15/2010 8:31:41 AM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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To: OldDeckHand

There was a thread here on it a while back. I think I got the gist of it, perhaps getting the ascap/bmi mechanism wrong. If I have time I’ll look it up.


18 posted on 09/15/2010 8:47:07 AM PDT by Ender Wiggin
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To: OldDeckHand

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2576075/posts

here is is. I was wrong, it was cell phones not mp3 players, and I don’t think ascap was involved but there was mention of 100 mil royalties or fees.


19 posted on 09/15/2010 8:50:51 AM PDT by Ender Wiggin
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"here is is. I was wrong, it was cell phones not mp3 players, and I don’t think ascap was involved but there was mention of 100 mil royalties or fees."

Yes, this makes sense. Still, these are fees that will be paid to artists, collected from radio stations and not consumers. Essentially, the radio trade organizations are trying to save terrestrial radio from going extinct, and they think if they can get the government to mandate the installation of radios in cell-phones, it will further that end.

20 posted on 09/15/2010 9:02:01 AM PDT by OldDeckHand
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