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Pakiban: How Pakistan protected Taliban, post-9/11
The Times of India ^ | 13 September, 2010 | The Times of India

Posted on 09/13/2010 6:13:28 PM PDT by James C. Bennett

WASHINGTON: As "Taliban's primary sponsor" Pakistan protected and promoted its client every inch of the way in the immediate days after 9/11 resulting in undermining the US war on terror, newly declassified documents detailing exchanges at that time between Washington and Islamabad reveal.

As current US strategy increasingly pursues policies to reconcile or "flip" the Taliban, the document collection released on Monday show Washington's refusal to negotiate with Taliban leadership directly after 9/11 and Pakistan's insistence of the relevance of group it nurtured in order to push for strategic depth in Afghanistan and thwart Indian influence.

According to the documents, on September 13, 2001, US Ambassador Wendy Chamberlin "bluntly" told Pakistani President Musharraf that there was "absolutely no inclination in Washington to enter into a dialogue with the Taliban. The time for dialog was finished as of September 11."

Pakistan, as the Taliban's primary sponsor, disagreed. Pakistani Intelligence ( ISI) Chief Mahmoud told the ambassador "not to act in anger. Real victory will come in negotiations... If the Taliban are eliminated... Afghanistan will revert to warlordism." Pakistan's primary concern was that the Northern Alliance, backed by other foreign powers in the region, including India, would return to power in Kabul.

Pakistan also backed off from hunting down Osama bin Laden, with Mahmoud, who was present in Washington on 9/11 and later turned out to be a frontman for Taliban, telling the Americans it was "better for the Afghans to do it. We could avoid the fallout."

As a result, Pakistani tribal areas where Osama bin Laden found refuge, which were momentarily open to the Pakistani Army when "the tribes were overawed by US firepower" after 9/11, quickly again became "no-go areas" where the Taliban could reorganize and plan their resurgence in Afghanistan, a commentary by the national Security Archive that accompanied the documents, notes.

Consequently, according to US Ambassador to Afghanistan Ronald E. Neumann, the 2005 Taliban resurgence in Afghanistan was a direct product of the "four years that the Taliban has had to reorganize and think about their approach in a sanctuary beyond the reach of either government." This had exponentially increased casualties as the Taliban adopted insurgency tactics successful in Iraq, including suicide bombings and the use of IEDs.

Neumann, the documents reveal, warned Washington that if the sanctuary in Pakistan were not addressed it would "lead to the re-emergence of the same strategic threat to the United States that prompted our OEF [Operation Enduring Freedom] intervention" in 2001.

The policy to protect Taliban reached the highest levels of the Pakistani establishment, the documents show. In exchanges between September 14 and November 16, 2001 – Pakistan's military strongman Pervez Musharraf asks the US to clarify if its counterterrorism mission is against the Taliban or just al-Qaida and repeatedly asks the US not to let the Northern Alliance take over Kabul.

The declassified documents also show that the state department, then headed by Colin Powell, batted hard for Pakistan despite suspicions in the US establishment about its bonafides in the war on terror. In a memo to President Bush, Powell notes that Musharraf's decision to ally with the US comes "at considerable political risk," as he has "abandoned the Taliban, frozen terrorist assets [and] quelled anti-Western protests without unwarranted force, " all dubious assumptions.

Regarding Afghanistan, the secretary appears to push Islamabad's agenda, telling the president that Pakistan will want to protect its interests and maintain influence in Kabul. "Musharraf is pressing for a future government supportive of its interests and is concerned that the Northern Alliance will occupy Kabul," Powell notes.

The disclosures came even as the White House began yet another review on Monday of its Af-Pak policy which has so far been based on several questionable premises, including undue sensitivity to Pakistan's extra-territorial ambitions and concerns mainly relating to its existential insecurity vis-à-vis India.

In a read-out of the meeting presided over by President Obama, the White House indicated that reports of overtures to the Taliban may be overstated. Additional forces deployed in Afghanistan are now at the highest operational tempo to date, and are focused on challenging long-established Taliban strongholds, targeting Taliban leadership, training Afghan Security Forces, and supporting Afghan-led reintegration and local policing initiatives, the White House cited General Petraeus as emphasizing.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 911; islam; pakistan; taliban

1 posted on 09/13/2010 6:13:32 PM PDT by James C. Bennett
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To: James C. Bennett

Would have been a fitting end if Pakistan had been overrun by the Taliban from which it nearly was, huh?


2 posted on 09/13/2010 6:23:06 PM PDT by cranked
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To: cranked

Pakistan is a questionable ‘friend’ in the region.


3 posted on 09/13/2010 6:26:32 PM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: TigerClaws

A “questionable friend” that was nearly overrun by the Taliban...... =.=


4 posted on 09/13/2010 6:28:28 PM PDT by cranked
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To: James C. Bennett

Pakistan knows that if the terrorists are defeated, aid money from the US will decrease. Now the aid money provides nice houses and fine vacations for those in power. Eliminate the terrorists and the money goes away.

Foreign aid is the best method ever devised to take money out of the pockets of the workers in one country and put it in the pocked of the rich and powerful in another country. Praise the Lord!


5 posted on 09/13/2010 6:38:16 PM PDT by Citizen Tom Paine (An old sailor sends)
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To: James C. Bennett

I am definitely Pro-India, now that India is out of the Soviet orbit.

However, keep the source of this information in mind. India has a vested interest in making them look bad to reduce our military aid to the Pakis.


6 posted on 09/13/2010 6:46:24 PM PDT by neocon1984
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To: James C. Bennett

India v. the Moslem Pakistan - now trouble making that call. Or was there?

Organ Bank the US State Department.


7 posted on 09/13/2010 7:08:41 PM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principles,)
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To: James C. Bennett

>Colin Powell, batted hard for Pakistan despite suspicions in the US establishment about its bonafides in the war on terror.

Thank You, you Saudi lickspittle. Note his adoration and fawning over Prince Bandar in his autobiography.

Nine years later.......Pakistan survives!


8 posted on 09/14/2010 11:43:06 AM PDT by swarthyguy (KIDS! Deficit, Debt,Taxes!Pfft Lookit the bright side of our legacy -Ummrika is almost SmokFrei!)
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To: neocon1984

>the source of this information

LOL! Leaked USG documents not good enough for you?


9 posted on 09/14/2010 11:44:45 AM PDT by swarthyguy (KIDS! Deficit, Debt,Taxes!Pfft Lookit the bright side of our legacy -Ummrika is almost SmokFrei!)
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To: James C. Bennett
Never forget

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. NEVER forget who did this

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It has been nine years since the cowardly, murdering Muslims attacked America, taking over 3,000 innocent lives.

Michelle Obama has an open letter on the White House site reminding us all that September 11th is 'Nationl Day Of Service' day. Obama means to erase the meaning of the Sept. 11, 2001 terrorist attacks from the American psyche and convert Sept. 11 into a day of leftist celebration and statist idolatry, and an "interfaith day of service".

The Pretender In Chief cannot have Americans remembering what really happened on 9-11-01. As an islamist he must defuse any potential threat to his true religion and denigrate the sacrifices of those who were murdered by his brother Muslims on that tragic day.

Don't let it happen.

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Awesome video tribute every American should watch: Most viewed of any 9/11 video, now in the Smithsonian. Made by a New Yorker who lived through it.

Be sure to read authors,’That Day’, and ‘Anatomy of the Attack’. http://www.frugalsites.net/911/attack/

Videos are offered on site for a nominal fee.

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3 things about islam

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ib9rofXQl6w&feature=player_embedded

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The Koran is filled (80-90%) with hate for Christians, Jews and blacks. It instructs to kill and conquer them and take their lands and possessions. Muslims believe the Koran to be the perfect word of their goda, Allah. These are the verses that the Islamist terrorists us to justify their murders:

THE KORAN INSTRUCTS MUSLIMS TO FIGHT CHRISTIANS, JEWS AND CONQUER THE WORLD FOR ISLAM:

(The following are only a few of the verses commanding Muslims to fight)

WARFARE IS ORDAINED FOR YOU, though it is hateful unto you; but it may happen that you hate a thing which is good for you and it may happen that you love a thing which is bad for you. (2.216)

"AND FIGHT THEM UNTIL THERE IS NO PERSECUTION , AND RELIGION SHALL BE ONLY FOR ALLAH 2:193

If you refuse to fight, Allah will afflict you with a painful doom. 9:39

Believers must fight for Allah. They must kill and be killed , and are bound to do so by the Torah, Gospel, and Quran. But Allah will reward them for it. 9:111

Fight those among the People of the Book [i.e. Jews and Christians] ... who do not profess the true religion, until they pay tribute out of hand and are utterly subdued. (9.29)

ISLAM IS THE MOST RACIST, BIGOTED RELIGION, AND THE KORAN IS FILLED WITH HATE FOR ALL OTHER THAN MUSLIMS:

(It is taught in textbooks in some Muslims countries today that Christians are monkeys and Jews are pigs)

Christians will be burned in the Fire. 5:72 Whoever says Muhammad was black must be killed…(Ash-Shifa, Tr. Aisha Abdarrahman, 2004)

Ahmad ibn Abi Sulayman, the companion of Sahnun said, "Anyone who says that the Prophet was black should be killed. (ibid, p.375)

In one Hadith, Mohammed referred to Blacks as Raisn Heads (Sahih Al Bukhary vol. 1, no. 662 and vol. 9, no. 256), and as pug nosed slaves in Sahih Moslem vol. 9 pages 46 and 47.

Christians are wrong about the Trinity. For that they will have a painful doom. 5:73

Give tidings (O Muhammad) of a painful doom to the rich and greedy Christian monks and Jewish rabbis.9:34

Jesus was not the Son of God. Those who say he was (Christians) are going to hell. 19:35-37

Scourge adulteresses with 100 stripes. Do not show them any pity. Have a party of believers watch the punishment. 24:2

THE KORAN PROMISES COUNTRIES TO CONQUER AND THE SPOILS THERIN:

Sura 33 "And he bequeathed to you their lands, their homes and their possessions, together with land you have never trodden" (33.27) .

MUSLIMS ARE INSTRUCTED IN THE KORAN TO BE STILL UNTIL THEY HAVE THE NUMBERS IN THE COUNTRIES THEY HAVE INVADED:

"Be patient with unbelievers until you have strength" (86.17).

THE KORAN INSTRUCTS MUSLIMS TO BE DECEPTIVE:

Quran 3:28 Don't have unbelieving friends unless it is to deceive them. Remember the final goal is to Allah.

SHARIA LAW MUST RULE THE WORLD

Allah’s law (Sharia) is binding to all…4:135

Allah accepts only Sharia and no other laws…7:29, 57:25

Allah is the Law-giver; He appointed Muhammad to implement the only correct laws (Sharia laws)…45:18

Quran 9:33 ISLAM WILL PREVAIL OVER ALL RELIGIONS

THE FOUNDER OF CAIR HAS TOLD US PLAINLY OF ISLAM'S OBJECTIVE IN AMERICA:

"ISLAM ISN'T IN AMERICA TO BE EQUAL TO ANY OTHER FAITH, BUT TO BECOME DOMINANT. The Koran ... should be the highest authority in America, and Islam the only accepted religion on earth. Everthing we need to know is in the Koran. We don't need to look somewhere else." OMAR M. AHMAD, CHAIRMAN OF CAIR,the mainsteam Muslim advocacy group.

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‘Every “moderate” Muslim is a potential terrorist. The belief in Islam is like a tank of gasoline. It looks innocuous, until it meets the fire. For a “moderate” Muslim to become a murderous jihadist, all it takes is a spark of faith.’

Dr. Ali Sina

ex Muslim, Authority on Islam

http://formermuslimsunited.americancommunityexchange.org/2010/03/13/exposing-the-myth-of-moderate-islam[/url]

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Muslims dancing in the streets celebrating the murder of 3,000 Americans:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrM0dAFsZ8k&feature=player_embedded

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“Islam has a proud tradition of tolerance.” Barack Hussein Obama

“it is important for Western countries to avoid impeding Muslim citizens from practicing religion as they see fit” Barack Hussein Obama

“We will convey our deep appreciation for the Islamic faith, which has done so much over so many centuries to shape the world for the better, including my own country.” Barack Hussein Obama

“The contribution of Muslims to the United States are too long to catalog because Muslims are so interwoven into the fabric of our communities and our country” Barack Hussein Obama

“I have lived in a Muslim-majority country... I know, because I am one of them.” Barack Hussein Obama

“As a student of history, I also know civilization’s debt to Islam.” Barack Hussein Obama

“Islam has demonstrated through words and deeds the possibilities of religious tolerance and racial equality.” Barack Hussein Obama

“And since our founding, American Muslims have enriched the United States.” Barack Hussein Obama

“And I consider it part of my responsibility as President of the United States to fight against negative stereotypes of Islam wherever they appear.” Barack Hussein Obama

“Moreover, freedom in America is indivisible from the freedom to practice one’s religion. That is why there is a mosque in every state of our union, and over 1,200 mosques within our borders. That is why the U.S. government has gone to court to protect the right of women and girls to wear the hijab, and to punish those who would deny it.” Barack Hussein Obama

"And one of the points I want to make is, is that if you actually took the number of Muslim Americans, we’d be one of the largest Muslim countries in the world...And so there’s got to be a better dialogue and a better understanding between the two peoples.” Barack Hussein Obama

“We are not nor have we even been at war with Islam” Barack Hussein Obama

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10 posted on 09/14/2010 6:52:37 PM PDT by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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