Posted on 09/12/2010 3:57:23 AM PDT by Scanian
Thousands of chanting, jeering protesters with dueling agendas converged on lower Manhattan yesterday in a bitter and sometimes violent clash over the planned Ground Zero mosque.
Rival demonstrations over the Islamic center were kept apart by a phalanx of cops -- though there were flare-ups between the groups even as relatives of 9/11 victims mourned just a few blocks away.
"I don't care if they build a mosque, but I don't want to hear their Islamic prayers wafting over the [Ground Zero] grave site . . . I saw the carnage of 9/11," fumed a retired firefighter who waved his middle finger at those who supported the mosque, which would sit two blocks north of the World Trade Center site.
The estimated 3,000 pro-mosque demonstrators outnumbered the mosque opponents by about 500.
A crowd 15 to 20 deep packed into City Hall Park to listen to speakers including former US Attorney General Ramsey Clark before marching from City Hall to the Federal Building. The march stretched three blocks, followed by a heavy contingent of police.
Beating drums and ringing bells, the crowd chanted, "Bigots go home."
The demonstrators also carried signs reading, "Tea party bigots funded by corporate $," and, "Our grief is no excuse for bigotry and racism."
(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...
Funny how they made a point to accurately count the crowd for each side of the debate.
I dont know what pro-mosque gathering outnumbered us, I saw over 10,000 people at the anti-mosque rally.
The man said nothing as he was escorted to safety by the police, and he left via a PATH train. He later told The Post his demonstration was about freedom of speech.
"People have the right to build that mosque," the bizarrely calm man said, refusing to identify himself. "They own that property. I wanted to show that I have the right to free speech. Rights are a two-way street."
God Bless this "bizarrely calm man" who exercised his Constitutional rights.
Why is it "he was escorted to safety by the police?"
Why was he not safe in his own country on his own streets?
Why were those who may wish to harm him not restrained, rather than infringing on his rights?
Thank you for being there, Race! 10,000 is a damn site more than 2500. Will you be writing up a report?
It would appear the enemedia are upping the ante. In the past the typical formula was 3:1.
Take the commie prostestors numbers and multiply by 3.
Then take the number of patriots protesting and divide by 3.
i WAS WORKING SECURITY, NOT WATCHING THE SPEAKERS...EXCEPT FOR gERT wILDERS! :)
The problems with the koran burning and the WTC Mosque
In all this argument of recent days, the most important fact of the matter has been obvious from the start, but is rarely spoken of by the media or the public.
Regarding the Florida koran burning, has anyone stepped back and listened to what people are saying in detail? The first thing a person will hear is how that Pastor has the Constitutional right to do what he is doing.
The next series of statements, however, are always the majority of statements made in these conversations, namely: It is the wrong thing to do, it is inciteful, it is a cult in Florida, muslims will hate us, it will endanger the troops, and, most importantly for this conversation: we are not at war against a religion, but extremists of that religion.
This is important because of the islamic world’s reaction to this Florida Pastor; namely, that the islamic world immediately protested the planned koran burning by condemning the entire country of the United States and marched and chanted promoting our deaths to cries of “DEATH TO AMERICA!”
The response by virtually all American politicians has been an apologetic tone, one where they immediately call for the koran burning to stop, observations that it IS inciteful and that the threats to Americans at home and American Troops abroad are not acceptable and that the safety of the American public are paramount in this case.
Their tone has been to cower in fear at these threats. Not one politician has stepped forward and exclaimed, “Islam is not being attacked by an entire country or an entire religion, Islam is only being attacked by a radical. Islam needs to remember we are not all against Islam and threats to our safety are wrong and inciteful and hate filled.”
Not one. They cower to the islamic world, refuse to hold them to the same standard of behavior as they insist from their own people, refuse to insist that the Pastor in Florida is an anomaly and that the United States is no threat to islam.
What they did was bow in submission to the sensitivities of the islamic world and deny the Florida Pastor his civil rights to speak out like an American.
The islamic world will not notice. They will riot anyways. It is identical to the cartoonists in Denmark. All it took was one cartoonist to make a cartoon of Muhammad and the entire islamic world was in the streets and threatening to kill anyone who makes a cartoon of Muhammad.
Theo Van Gogh made a movie about this islamic submission in Holland, and they killed him for making the movie.
The Florida Koran burning case is quite similar to the Ground Zero mosque case with some significant differences. In Florida, the Pastor must stop his koran burning or there will be violence across the globe, and in fact, even if he does stop, there will be violence across the globe due to him stating he wanted to burn korans. In New York City, the Imam who wants to build a mosque 2 blocks away from Ground Zero, he said on CNN that if we move the mosque or deny it’s construction, there will be violence across the globe.
In both cases, if we do not submit to islamic sensitivities, there will be violence across the globe, in fact, even if we do submit to islamic sensitivities, there will most likely be violence anyways due to the fact that we spoke of those things.
Free speech is threatened in Florida, and a new twist is happening in New York City, something that Israel has seen does not work, and that is LAND FOR PEACE.
The Ground Zero mosque is about LAND FOR PEACE. If we give islam the land to make a mosque, there will be peace. If we do not give islam the land, there will be violence.
Think this through people. In both of these cases, neither has anything to do with the original concerns people expressed. It is solely about whether we submit to islamic sensitivities or have violence.
It is about Islamic blackmail of the United States.
James Bancroft USMC 1977-1981
There is Nothing Peaceful about Islam! Just look at the Actions of Islam! Horrible and Atrocious! There will be NO Ground Zero Mosque! EVER!
Ever notice how those promoting the Muslim cause—are using the exact same tactics—even instruments—and terms used whenever the reprobate homosexuals do their thang? Is Islam queer? Or just a devilish bloody religion of forced belief?
No matter if it was a working protest for you...thanks for being there! Happy to hear there were 10,000 willing to defend America!
Good to see that some minds are able to resist the Hypnosis. I guess I have always been a Cynic. I do think this President is a card carrying Communist but you must be able to comprehend what he says. He is very good at making Socialism sound good and harmless. Collectivism is his game. I see it as a huge Ponzi Scheme Pyramid deal with only him and his cronies at the top. His gift is making it sound good to the gullible. The Communists and Muslims are in Cahoots to bring America down.
All you need to know about the speaker at the protest:
“For decades, Clark has consistently condemned American foreign policy and its related military campaigns, from the Vietnam War, to the Iraq War, to the broader War on Terror. Conversely, he has backed myriad groups, governments, and individuals with rabidly anti-American, and even terrorist, agendas. Whatever the nature of any conflict, Clark invariably sides with America’s adversary:”
http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/individualProfile.asp?indid=781
Ramsey is more like cat scat.
EXACTLY! It worked well for the muslims to align themselves with Hitler and the Fascists. No reason to think their collusion with the communists won't work just as well.
Seems so to me. Look at any MSM Leftist. Pro-Muslim anti-American. The Soviets were always Pro-Muslim too. Just like Obama their Manchurian Mole President.
I think what was most gut turning in this article were the twenty year old girls wearing head scarves and blowing a horn. How obnoxious. It is this type of arrogant, spoiled and grossly leftist college student that got off their usually lazy behinds in 2008, and put Obama into office. They are godless and directionless and will continue to be so as long as you have academics filling them up with leftist, atheistic propaganda.
Our rulers (past and present) do not want to win.
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