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To: fwdude
You will be shouted down by Liber(al)tarians and even many calling themselves "conservatives." But it is a community's/state's right to proscribe its own laws based on a moral code - it always has been until the Constitution was so recently contorted.

Those "Liber(al)tarians" and those that PROFESS to be conservative, should look at the writings (and laws) of the Founding Fathers when it came things such as morality (I always keep in mind what Adams said: "Avarice, ambition, revenge, or gallantry, would break the strongest cords of our Constitution as a whale goes through a net. Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.").

When it came to their thoughts on the morality of homosexuality, they described it as "a disgrace to human nature", and their laws reflected their words:

"Because of the nature of the crime, the penalties for the act of sodomy were often severe. For example, Thomas Jefferson indicated that in his home state of Virginia, "dismemberment" of the offensive organ was the penalty for sodomy. In fact, Jefferson himself authored a bill penalizing sodomy by castration. The laws of the other states showed similar or even more severe penalties:

That the detestable and abominable vice of buggery [sodomy] . . . shall be from henceforth adjudged felony . . . and that every person being thereof convicted by verdict, confession, or outlawry [unlawful flight to avoid prosecution], shall be hanged by the neck until he or she shall be dead.
New York
Link to Founders and homosexuality

Also keep in mind that EVERY State had sodomy laws up until the time the "Gay Mafia" intimidated the pencil necks at the American Psychiatric Association into removing homosexuality from their list of mental disorders:
Link to Repealed Sodomy Laws

In closing (I bet you didn't think I'd go on such a tirade huh?), let's keep in mind the following:

"All law commands human action; it seeks either to restrain or to urge particular actions. It necessarily says either "Thou shalt" or "Thou shalt not," and it backs these commands to action or restraint with coercion, with sanctions enforced by the power of the sword. The sword and the word are united in law. And because the word commands action by men, the word of law is necessarily a morel teaching, a teaching which seeks to guide the ruled along a particular way of action, of life."
Link to Civil Government: The Neglected Ministry

62 posted on 09/14/2010 7:24:26 AM PDT by aSeattleConservative
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To: aSeattleConservative
You are spot on target. Excellent links provided as well. And, wow! - a conservative in Seattle!

Even though sodomy laws have themselves been "castrated" over the years, even nominal statutes on the books with misdemeanor force would at least supply a societal censure against the aggressive, open marketing of homosexuality in society. These laws go a long way toward stemming a sodomite onslaught, as homosexuals don't have the blessing of a state as a justification for their behavior as they do now.

A proof of this is the result of the Lawrence decision, which suddenly swept away all remaining sodomy laws in several states. Shortly afterward, same-sex "marriage" became the "law" (mandated unconstitutionally by a judiciary using Lawrence for its reasoning) in a state, followed by many "non-discrimination" laws regarding homosexuality and other degeneracies. The sodomites were energized and emboldened against common morality and decency, and it hasn't slowed but has only gotten worse.

63 posted on 09/14/2010 8:41:11 AM PDT by fwdude (Anita Bryant was right.)
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