[Rapscallion]

My theory is that NYT was once the standard of reporting excellence and objectivity.

While they were not above mixing some opinion with fact, the opinion was usually mainstream.

Once they "went liberal" that began the descent into taking sides, trying to hurt the opposition and then, partisan assinations. As the opinion became more and more left of center, the subscriptions declined steadily.

Bottom line, they did themselves in with liberalism, but they really did it to themselves. The public just stopped trusting the NYT.

[a fool in paradise]

[Ronbo1948]

Socialism...liberalism is just a code word for socialism.

Yep! Socialism caused the death of the NYT.

Like the Cuban Exiles love to say, “Socialism is death!”

[chuckee]

Sorry, Rap, but the NYT has never been a mainstream paper. The difference between the pre Pinch Sulzberger Times and the current Pinch Times is that during pre Pinch Times the editorial page did not bleed as much into the factual page. Under Pinch seems they have consistently merged both functions.Pinch Sulzberger is a disaster and had his family not owned a majority position he would have been gone long ago.The Times has always been the national Democrat house organ, now more so than ever. As such it has always been a mediocre paper that has always been overrated perhaps because it is NYC based. The Washington Post, although liberal, has always been more advanced in reportage and analysis than the Times, perhaps because they are based in DC and have better access to both sides.

[hinckley buzzard]

They have always taken the liberal side, at least in modern times. The difference is that before alternative media, nobody knew they were being fed a contrived diet of leftwing hash. There was no fact checker until internet, cable news, and talk radio came along. Now they can't pull the same ol' sh*t, but they are too rigid and too entrneched to do anything else.